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kensamc
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Posted: Apr/13/2012 at 7:47pm |
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Thanks all Gonna spend some time and money to rule out everything I can before calling it bearings... Started looking for a replacement cover and everyone seems to list just one; I know 87 and up uses a different filter from 86 and before... So does anyone know if, as I assume, the new covers are threaded for the newer style filters? |
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SC397
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Posted: Apr/13/2012 at 9:26pm |
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Make no assumptions. I think the difference is in the double ended fitting that threads in to the aluminum housing.
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Posted: Apr/14/2012 at 8:36am |
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The covers are the same. Like SC397 I'm pretty sure the only difference is the double ended threaded filter fitting. Even if it's not, the angled oil filter adapter/pump cover will fit all. I don't know if the new timing cover comes with the adapter/cover, but I'd think so. It's possible that the machined surface where the filter fits is different between filter styles -- different diameter or passages -- but not likely. I'm looking at the 67 TSM as I type -- I'm more of a six man myself, been a while since I built an AMC V-8, and I haven't had to change timing covers on one, all I've built checked out good.
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kensamc
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Posted: Apr/14/2012 at 2:03pm |
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Frank, Rick I always appreciate you guys replying. Everyone else is appreciated as well. Changed just the filter and it , sadly, looks pretty good. It was an STP filter and I found this website that cut open and disclosed the construction of a bunch of filters; it was putting them all up against the NAPA gold, so I can imagine who did the "test" STP had the largest openings, so I assume that would lower pressure, right? Or could... It had Wix / Napa GOld at the top of the heap, AC Delco and Bosch faired ok too ... They were only looking at media and construction, not flow though. Since I have to change the gasket on the pump cover anyway, I am deciding whether to get a new cover or just the midplate kit . Any suggestions? And when I fix the cover/ gasket I will do an oil change to either a heavier oil or oil plus Lucas additive. |
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Posted: Apr/14/2012 at 7:41pm |
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Rick has the experience with the V-8s to recommend what to do about the oil pump -- I don't. Wix has always been one of the best filters, and I think the NAPA Gold is sourced from Wix.
I can tell you that I like the Lucas oil stabilizer. It will help a little, and will quiet gears. I run half a quart every other oil change in my 1980 GS1000 bike (engine and trans share oil) and if I skip to three changes I can tell the difference in gear noise in the trans (well, it has 90-100K on it...). You can run up to a quart in an automatic transmission (if it holds at least 10 quarts total... 10-15% Lucas) and it will firm the shifting up just enough to notice without doing any damage. I ran it for years in a little M-35 air cooled trans in a 63 American with a hopped up 196 OHV (160-170 hp). I ran the axle in my current ride low in oil (darn pinion seal leak!!) and burned the gears just enough for them to make a little noise. Not much, but enough to notice in the station wagon. Wouldn't be near as bad in a sedan, but with the passenger compartment extending over the axle all the noise comes right in. I don't expect the Lucas to cut it out, but should make a noticeable difference... I hope. Lucas says you can run it 100% in a differential, but I tried that once and it made more noise. No more than 50%, and I think 25-30% will be better. I drained the 100% and mixed it, don't recall what mix I used though. I'm going to go with 30-33% in the noisy one and see what happens, after I replace the seal. |
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