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    Posted: Oct/13/2018 at 11:24pm
I recently replaced my tank and gas sending unit and rubber lines, and now that I'm ready to start up my car it seems to not want to pull any gas. Before I started the whole process everything worked, and now it seems not to. 22 gallon tank and it's got 15 gallons in it so I cant imagine the pickup isn't getting it, but I have no idea what could be causing it when everything was fine before. I'm going to attempt to pull straight out of the fuel can and into the pump and I'll find out if my pump is bad, but is there any other culprit? I'll probably replace the pump anyway, so could I use some compressed air to blow out and debris in the fuel line?

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The fuel line from the tank to the pump is likely full of air and these pumps don't pump air through to prime themselves very well. Usually all you need to do is fill the carb float bowl with gas and run the engine. It'll run for 30 seconds or so on the gas in the float bowl and that is usually long enough for the fuel pump to pump out all the air and start pumping fuel up to the carb. If not, the engine will use up the gas in the carb and stall. Then you refill the carb and try again at a higher RPM. Sometimes they need 1500 RPM or so to prime themselves.

Weak pumps don't prime well or at all. Leaks in the fuel line from the tank to the pump allow the pump to suck air and it would much rather suck air than fuel. Pumps that were running on an engine but were removed and stuck on a shelf for a while sometimes don't want to prime when they are reinstalled back into service. They dry out inside and don't work well until they get wet with gas again. 

You can encourage pump priming by blowing your compressed shop air into the fuel filler neck of the gas tank with a rag around it as a seal while running the engine on fuel in the carb. The pressure pushes fuel to the pump. 

Pumps can be checked. Just put a vacuum/pressure gauge on the inlet of the pump as the engine runs on the fuel in the carb. It should make at least 10" Hg vacuum. Then put the gauge on the outlet of the pump and check for 4-6 PSI. You can do this on the bench by stroking the pump arm by hand. 

Some pumps are hard to prime but once primed they work fine for years after. 
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Thank you very much, I've not done too much fuel work on lines or tanks, only replaced a few pumps but the priming idea is new to me, I'll try it out, hopefully that should be it.
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Pull the fuel line at the tank side of the fuel pump. Gravity should start the fuel flowing.
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It worked very well, I siphoned some gas from a gas can right into the fuel inlet on the carb and it ran until it started sucking up gas. Now just some tuning and hopefully I'll be in the clear
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