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    Posted: May/15/2019 at 5:47pm
Hi all....my buddy just bought a '68 AMX [long story] and I was testing it for him, went to check the oil and couldnt find the dip stick or tube! WTF?!

Anyways, after a little research and talking to a Javelin owner at a "Cars and Coffee" show a couple weeks ago, the dip stick should be near the master cylinder, but it is not there.
The car has headers and from what I've been told is they may have been in the way and either not installed or broke off.

I'm in search of the did stick and tube, may have found one, how much of a job will it be to install it?
This concerns me as I dont want to blow the 390 motor, it was recently rebuilt.

He bought the car at auction, does it look familiar?!

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I never use the ugly stock dipstick and PITA tube anymore. I either cut the stock stick down till its flush on the block and remark or use the Buick BB shorty style that seals against the block. Yup its hard to see and put back in but no more ugly AMC dipstick killing the view of coated headers and nice valve covers

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Originally posted by Phitown Hustler Phitown Hustler wrote:

I never use the ugly stock dipstick and PITA tube anymore. I either cut the stock stick down till its flush on the block and remark or use the Buick BB shorty style that seals against the block. Yup its hard to see and put back in but no more ugly AMC dipstick killing the view of coated headers and nice valve covers
 
To each his own, but when properly installed the OE AMC dipstick and tube is no uglier than any other OE dipstick/tube.
 
 Their not that tough to install either.  Years ago I made a very simple tool to install AMC dip stick tubes. Split a 1" long piece of small tubing that fit nicely around the dip stick tube, weld them to a small pair of vise grips, place the end of the split tubing against the dip stick tube flange and tap the side of the vise grips until the dip stick tube flange is against the block.      
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If the dip stick tube broke off in the block it won't be that easy to remove. Here is the location of the dip stick on my 68 AMX 390. 
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Some report that the commonly available dipstick tubes dont dit in the block. Apparently the sealing band diameters are too large.  I got one anyhow and swaged the bands down with a double flaring tool clamp.  Then sanded down just a bit to remove crimp marks.  Call it a $20 experiment..  If it doesnt work I'll buy one from Bulltear.  

Havent started assembly yet so cant say if it worked yet.  
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I admit a Jeep dipstick looks a bit odd on an AMC. I did not mind the stock 73 dipstick, but my 71 has a Jeep dipstick installed, from the mid 90s rebuild. A wee too tall, and yellow.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote billd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/15/2019 at 8:15pm
Originally posted by ChillyB ChillyB wrote:

Some report that the commonly available dipstick tubes dont dit in the block. Apparently the sealing band diameters are too large.  I got one anyhow and swaged the bands down with a double flaring tool clamp.  Then sanded down just a bit to remove crimp marks.  Call it a $20 experiment..  If it doesnt work I'll buy one from Bulltear.  

Havent started assembly yet so cant say if it worked yet.  


Now there's a good idea - 
Can't say I've had horrible issues but the one in my 73 was a total disaster - the PO was NOT an AMC person and hacked everything he did so I ended up having to install things - with the engine in, headers and all. Worked but not thrilled. Have a spare bulltear stick/tube just in case. Will likely need more as I think the 401 I have to build is missing the stick and tube, too.

Have to keep the flare tool clamp idea in mind.
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Re: the car - it said to have originally sold for $52.5K after the car was showcased in a two-part series on tv.   It was apparently sold to a second owner after the show.

Are you the third owner since the rebuilding?  How’s it holding up?  Happy with the quality of craftsmanship?

Tell us more.

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This looks like the misfit garage car. They had a lot of misinformation on the show during the build.
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Agree, definitely looks like the MisFit Garage / Fired Up Garage Car.
Would be interesting to know the inside scoop on that car and build.
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