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   An update: Pacerman sent me a 232 starter that he had and I installed it with two shoulder bolts.  Still wasn't spinning the engine right. I then loosened up the bottom bolt and SLIGHTLY moved the starter out, tightened it and it fired right up. Em confused  as to why this is happening but at this point, I'm not looking gift horse in the mouth.

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69gladiator Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Apprentice Joined: Sep/15/2013 Location: stratford,ct Status: Offline Points: 242	Post Options Post Reply Quote 69gladiator Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct/22/2017 at 5:02pm
	An update: Pacerman sent me a 232 starter that he had and I installed it with two shoulder bolts. Still wasn't spinning the engine right. I then loosened up the bottom bolt and SLIGHTLY moved the starter out, tightened it and it fired right up. Em confused as to why this is happening but at this point, I'm not looking gift horse in the mouth.

billd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Forum Administrator Joined: Jun/27/2007 Location: Iowa Status: Offline Points: 30894	Post Options Post Reply Quote billd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct/22/2017 at 6:42pm
	The Motorcraft style starter indexes perfectly into the plate between engine and bell housing - this means it cannot shift at all. The most that can happen is a slight rotation if the bolts are a tad undersized but that doesn't change the distance from the center of the starter armature to the flywheel, it only rotates it a bit. So if the plate is right and not bent and the starter is correct, it's a snug fit and cannot be shifted TOWARD or AWAY FROM the flywheel, period. Only turned, and if it turns, it turns on the center of the starter, or armature - meaning the distance does not and can not be changed. The distance of the starter in relationship to the flywheel is fixed - unless: The wrong plate was installed The plate hole was modified or the plate is BENT the starter is incorrect The WRONG NOSE HOUSING was put on the starter in a past life. Granted, this is a 258 setup shown below - but the motorcraft type starter should index into the bell housing plate regardless. The bolt only secure it, they don't locate it - this plate does. Again, at least with the 258............
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69gladiator Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Apprentice Joined: Sep/15/2013 Location: stratford,ct Status: Offline Points: 242	Post Options Post Reply Quote 69gladiator Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct/22/2017 at 8:01pm
	The starter I installed is the Delco Type.The plate does not appear to be bent. Its seems to be in the right place now. I wiggled it out towards the left front wheel very very little but it made the difference.

carnuck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: Mar/31/2010 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 3942	Post Options Post Reply Quote carnuck Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct/23/2017 at 9:16am
	I was so frustrated with mine that I ended up using an IH Delco style starter off the early 232 with a slightly longer mode gear. It had shims added. My Comanche’s recent problem seems to be the gear engaged and the armature has melted loose from the shaft or the rollers in the drive are shot. It makes noise like it’s spinning but the gear engages the flexplate with just a light whining noise and no rotation.
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vinny Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Supporter of TheAMCForum Joined: Jan/05/2012 Location: Calgary Status: Offline Points: 2837	Post Options Post Reply Quote vinny Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct/23/2017 at 9:23am
	https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Delco-Remy-Starter-Drive-1957-1977-Corvette-/202004604156 I don't know if this is the correct drive but besides the solenoid it is a common failure item. I should say I've changed a lot of drives on the Ford starters but never one on a Delco. Same idea though, they both use a sprag clutch. Edited by vinny - Oct/23/2017 at 9:32am

Nodak68 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Apprentice Joined: May/08/2016 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 103	Post Options Post Reply Quote Nodak68 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct/31/2017 at 9:35am
	281921517819 Try the eBay item number above. Got one for my 232 68 Rogue, works perfectly, no external solenoid needed. Al little spendy but was worth it
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