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Originally posted by WesternRed WesternRed wrote:

What machining is required on the heads to accommodate the valve springs for the 290B-6 cam. I'm thinking along the lines of a solid flat tappet as well.
 
Crower 45316 is about the smallest off the shelf solid I've been able to find:
 
Performance level 4 - Compu-pro - High torque, all purpose camshaft with emphasis on mid to top end power.
INT/EXH - Dur @ .050” Lift: 246°/250° RR: 1.6/1.6 Gross Lift: .499”/.509” LSA: 108° RPM: 3000 to 6500 Redline: 7500


The Schneider 279 cam is the cam I run in one car as I was looking for a mechanical with not too much lift and needed 230-240ish duration to run on the street with a dual carb setup. Very happy with it so far. On this 401, I am also using the Crane 99838 double springs as I prefer shorter assembly heights that give moderate seat loads and quicker open pressure than comparable taller springs. With all mechanical cams on AMCs I only use Howards direct lube .904 lifters and smith bros restricted pushrods.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WesternRed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/14/2019 at 8:48pm
Hopefully not hijacking the thread completely but that Schneider cam is probably on par with my current hydraulic, bit shorter gross duration, which might help off the line, but otherwise not much to gain. Next size up might be a step too far.

Part Number:10012
Grind Number:279F
Intake Duration (gross):274
Exhaust Duration (gross):284
Intake Duration (.050”):230
Exhaust Duration (.050”):240
Intake Valve Lift*:.512"
Exhaust Valve Lift*:.512"
Lobe Separation:110
Intake Valve Lash:.014"
Exhaust Valve Lash: .014"
RPM Range
2500-6500

Part Number:10014
Grind Number:292-02F
Intake Duration (gross):292
Exhaust Duration (gross):302
Intake Duration (.050”):258
Exhaust Duration (.050”):262
Intake Valve Lift*:.544"
Exhaust Valve Lift*:.544"
Lobe Separation:106
Intake Valve Lash:.020"
Exhaust Valve Lash: .022"
RPM Range
3800-7250


Need something that will let me turn a little more than the current 6500 across the line and also help drop the 60' time down a touch from 1.7 seconds, maybe a big ask?

This is where I'm at now with the hydraulic, which feels like it is running out of puff at 6500:

Intake: Adv Dur 298, 0.050" Dur 232, Valve Lift 0.510" 
Exhaust: Adv Dur 302, 0.050" Dur 238, Valve lift 0.510"
LSA 110

11.74 @ 114.3 mph.


Edited by WesternRed - May/14/2019 at 8:53pm
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For what it's worth my first pure strip car I ran a 250 @ .050" duration Crane solid lifter cam in a 302 and it ran really well to my 7,200 RPM redline. I am still looking for my time slips from that car, but I think it was hitting in 1.50 - 1.60 60 ft. times.

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Originally posted by PROSTOCKTOM PROSTOCKTOM wrote:

That's why they say to take  new springs and cycle them a dozen times in a vise or press prior to installing them. Because whatever you measure them at at installed height they lose pressure once they get heat cycled a few times. I always get a spring with 10% more pressure than what I want to to be for this reason. I'll take a little extra any day over a little less.

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That was the same logic applied when I chose the Crane 99893 Springs for my cylinder heads.
Not that I "know" from experience, but picked up that perspective somewhere... 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken_Parkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/15/2019 at 5:01pm
I like the specs on the Bullet cam, the comp suggestion may be considered a little smaller than what you have. The Bullet spring loads are pretty high, I would tend to think go on the lower side of their recommendation. The down side of high spring loads is increased probability of wiping a lobe - for sure make sure you are religious on break in and proper oil.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PHAT69AMX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/17/2019 at 12:49pm
Summit does show 2 more AMC Crane Solid Lifter Cams available, each a little step more than
# 861201 = 300/310 Adv, 3,000-6,500,
# 861241 = 310/320 Adv, 3,800-7,200,
# 861321 = 320/320 Adv, 4,200-7,500,
The 1987-88 Crane Catalog on-hand says they all use those Crane # 99893-16 Valve Springs.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ramzilla Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/06/2019 at 2:54pm
Sorry you made a mistake on the valve springs 99838 for solid mech roller cam. The new catalog is easier to identify. I know because this is the cam I plan on using when the time comes as for now anyway. 99893 springs are for Hyd roller cam a difference in spring pressures. Actually the solid roller has less spring pressure do to the less weight of the solid lifters. You can correct also when I am wrong.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ramzilla Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/06/2019 at 3:02pm
That's for the 868511 cam springs 99838 .The 868821 cam has different springs 99876. Love that new catalog. If you see something different let me know. I know should of just cut and paste info.
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