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danleym
AMC Addicted Joined: Oct/17/2009 Location: Colorado Spring Status: Offline Points: 850 |
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Posted: Apr/25/2014 at 5:30pm |
I moved to Colorado a while back, and am finally getting around to getting the carb rejetted and adjusted for the altitude. I had it running well in St. Louis, other than a bit of a bog transitioning from idle, but nothing excessive that kept me from being able to drive it. When I got to Colorado it still ran well at idle, but was way down on power. That was with #48 jets. Today I put #44 jets in (got a range of sizes to work with, that was just my starting point). No other changes. The car fired up and was running great for about a minute, when there was a pop or clunk- not a backfire, more like a metallic noise, I figured it was the high idle kicking down because the noise was accompanied by a drop in the rpms. Well, as soon as it dropped down it bogged down and died. And I haven't been able to get it running since. Holding down the throttle makes it at least fire while cranking, but not enough to catch, and if I'm all the way off the throttle, it won't even attempt to fire. Plus fuel is running out of the tubes that stick up just in front of the choke, so it's flooding.
I'm at a loss. I've never been great with carbs, and all the reading I can do online doesn't make up for having someone who knows their stuff walking through it with me. Thanks for any replies, and if anyone is in the Colorado Springs area and would be willing to actually come give me a hand I would be really grateful. |
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Hollis Danley
1980 Spirit, 258 2000 VW Jetta TDI 2002 Jeep Wrangler, 4.0 2015 Subaru XV Crosstrek |
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pacerman
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Sounds like the power valve blew out (ruptured) of maybe you tampered with it and it's not screwed in tight. Joe
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Happiness is making something out of nothing.
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danleym
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I'll check that next time. I didn't mess with it so it should be screwed in tight, how would it rupture? Do they just do that sometimes?
I did just decided to start fresh with the tune, double check float settings, reset mixture and idles. No change, still flooding, still only attempts to fire with the accelerator fully to the floor, even then it feels like I need just a little more for it to stay running. Seems to me like the idle circuit is completely not functioning. Don't know why it wouldn't though. |
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Hollis Danley
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1greasygt
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How many miles on it? The reason I ask is cause you said a metallic clunk not a back fire. The two don't always go hand in hand for the timing or a timing component to fail. Have you checked the plugs to see if one or more are wet? Possibly could be a hydro lock and you jumped time. Hopefully it's just your carb. and that's all.
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1greasygt
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Move the distributor and see if it gets better, you'll need someone to crank it over or use a remote starter switch.
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1greasygt
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Okay what just happened here???????????? There was a post between my first two post that magically disappeared.
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danleym
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Honestly not sure on the engine miles, 120,000 at a minimum- the odometer wasn't working when I bought it. The carb has less than 1,000 miles on it. Haven't checked the plugs, hadn't messed with timing. I'll put that on the list of things to look at.
What's more frustrating is the car is currently being stored at my in-law's, which is an hour from where I live, so I'm not going to be able to work on it all that often. Edited by danleym - Apr/25/2014 at 10:14pm |
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Hollis Danley
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pacerman
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Check this series of videos by Mike's Carburetor parts for some more info on rebuilding that carb. Here's the first video and you can easily reference the other videos on the series on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4J4QhNDj6Y Joe |
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purple72Gremlin
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makes me wonder about the timing chain.....since it made noise.........pull the plugs out and see what it does..if it cranks easy...maybe it hydrolocked?
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uncljohn
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The hard part here is I can't touch things nor see them. But for the sake of discussion suppose that pop was some kind of a back fire? And the thing quit running after the idle slowed down. I don't know what that is but this sounds fishy: holding the throttle all the way down it trys to fire and Fuel is running out of vent tubes. Now I an not really familiar with this carburetor although I have a couple kicking around just in case you need one by the way but! Those two symptoms sound like the inlet needle valve controlled by the float in the gasoline reservoir is not shutting off the gasoline into the carburetor. Thus it is in deed pumping gas from the tank straight through the carburetor into the intake manifold. By the way in situations like this when I am trying to figure out what is going on I have been known to drop a screw driver down through the carburetor in such a manner as to hold the choke wide open while I crank it. That is a way to clear out a flooded engine. If this were mine I would take the carburator far enough apart to see what is going on in the float chamber and what is happening to the needle valve. Did it fall off some way and get wedged in there? I have had more than one carburetor do that and frustrate the heck out of me. Again, I have accumulated a couple of these carburetors and have no use for one. If you need a parts carb I just might have it. |
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