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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tomj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/16/2018 at 9:28pm
Originally posted by Ollie Ollie wrote:


Its very interesting concept, but way overpriced in my book.
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i think you're right and that will end that.

i have to change jets when i spend time above 5000 feet. that's a PITA. but yeah...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tomj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/16/2018 at 9:29pm
Originally posted by AMXRWB AMXRWB wrote:

Little early for you people to post a April fools joke.  


nahh, it's never too early!

but the joke may be on them, it's probably just too expensive as a "fix up" device.


we'll see wont we... or maybe we wont, which will mean something too.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gisulf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/17/2018 at 4:22pm
Thanks for letting us know about this, but 700 Gringo dollars! I'm not sure my whole CAR is worth that much at the moment.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ollie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/17/2018 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by tomj tomj wrote:

....i have to change jets when i spend time above 5000 feet. that's a PITA. but yeah...


My 500 Edelbrock just needs tweaking at altitude, as does the timing.
I don't need to change rods or jets. I always carry my vacuum gauge and I have a tee plumbed in the vacuum line.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/17/2018 at 5:58pm
I agree , neat idea but to expensive.... 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote farna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/20/2018 at 6:25am
Same impression as others -- too expensive. Maybe the turbo crowd will like it though... need extra fuel at higher boost. Drop the price to about $400 or less and I think it might sell, but at $700 I'll go with a full EFI system. Does anyone really have enough in a carb that it's worth adding another $700 to to make it better? Junkyard EFI can be cobbled together for that money, and as stated, some of the newer TBI systems aren't much more. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1982AMCConcord Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/20/2018 at 7:43am
Vortech Superchargers had an old 2 barrel supplemental fuel injector kit for a Supercharged TBI kit in the late 80's early 90's that I used to own. As a dumb kid... I thought it was great and I was going to use it on my Caprice TBI but I later sold it after I realized that the whole thing wasn't even going to make a lot of power! Anyway... it had a vacuum referenced computer to activate the two additional fuel injectors under boost. It was nothing more than an on/off switch. The computer was made by Haltech. The supplementary fuel injection pod/plate also mounted underneath the throttle body. It was a one trick pony for Vortech as they never made anything like that again... but other companies did make supplemental fuel injection kits during the 90's-early 2000's time period that were designed in the same manner. This is not a new idea. I can see that this would actually work quite well under the right conditions... especially on an engine where there is a power adder installed. The main problem with something like this is that technology has come so far now that there are already 4 barrel throttle bodies and carbs that feed 1000hp by themselves. I am pretty sure not a lot of guys wouldn't even need this unless it was for a very a specific application operating under a very specific set of conditions.     

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote farna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/21/2018 at 6:32am
Sort of like a nitrous feed plate... but smart! I don't see the K&N product lasting long, even if it was more reasonably priced. Half EFI might be a bit better than a carb, but I don't see it as enough better to be worth doing, even at a $300-400 price point.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1982AMCConcord Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/22/2018 at 9:20am
Originally posted by farna farna wrote:

Sort of like a nitrous feed plate... but smart! I don't see the K&N product lasting long, even if it was more reasonably priced. Half EFI might be a bit better than a carb, but I don't see it as enough better to be worth doing, even at a $300-400 price point.

Totally agree. IMO.... this is a niche product... very few people are going to need something like this unless they need it for a very specific application...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bug breath Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/22/2018 at 9:22am
Hey Tom,   Tough crowd.     
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