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Blazers AMC repoduces the rubber trunnion, and it is a very high quality.

I am pretty sure he is vendor that the others purchase from.
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The original is vulcanized/bonded to the front of the trunnion. I've had people replace it with a dense rubber pad though. Doesn't have to be glued on, the flange will hold it in. There are other parts of the tube that can go bad, like the CV joint in the V-8s. I don't know if he replaces that with a newer CV or just a single joint, but I think if you get the whole tube you get the replaced front u-joint and a new center bearing as well. 
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Blaser Auto has the kit to repair the torque tube front gasket and seals, this is the one I purchased for the 1965 327 Marlin.
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Originally posted by gtoman_us gtoman_us wrote:

Blazers AMC repoduces the rubber trunnion, and it is a very high quality.

I am pretty sure he is vendor that the others purchase from.


Nope.  Never assume anything.

In other news, Galvin's AMC Rambler Parts sells the complete ready to go Torque Tube for those that wish to have the seal Volcanized to the Tube as originals were.  And they are in stock and ready to go for those that need it ready to bolt on.
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Originally posted by farna farna wrote:

The original is vulcanized/bonded to the front of the trunnion. I've had people replace it with a dense rubber pad though. Doesn't have to be glued on, the flange will hold it in. There are other parts of the tube that can go bad, like the CV joint in the V-8s. I don't know if he replaces that with a newer CV or just a single joint, but I think if you get the whole tube you get the replaced front u-joint and a new center bearing as well. 


The Torque Tube and Driveshaft are 2 separate pieces and sold separately.

Rebuilt Driveshafts are only for Automatics.  The CV Joint parts are fairly scarce now.
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   The torque tube flange in the earlier post with a 6 bolt pattern is used on earlier Ramblers up thru 1962. The torque tube trunnion on these years is simply inserted into the flange groove upon assembly and will stabilize and cushion the drive. It is necessary for straight driving. That trunnion is made and sold by nashramblerrubber.com . It is the same configuration as Nash Healey, Ambassador 49-57 and the Hudson Hornet. I found this page with photos of the trunnion and torque tube assembly NashRamblerRubber.com/trunnion-pictures-1 . When they go soft with oil they can pop out or fail during driving. 
   The trunnion for later Ramblers from 63 on looks different and needs to be bonded inside the torque tube. Some vendors exchange the entire torque with trunnion already correctly bonded inside.  


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does anyone have a goo exploded view diagram of the setup that is in a '62 Ambassador 327 automatic trans??
I have a vibration at about 40-45 MPH   only 73,000 miles on the car, but she is 59 years old..  HOPING to get parts I might need BEFORE I start taking things loose..
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The front uj - the double uj - on my 63 was shot at 65,000. The yokes were cracked.
I had it rebuilt by a good local shop who converted to a single uj.
 
They also pulled apart the two sections of the drive shaft to replace the centre bearing. Not many shops can do that, at the time -three years ago - even Galvins could not get it done.
 
The TSM has good exploded diagrams. Especially the 62 TSM, even better than the 63.
 
But if it's a drive shaft vibrating, I'd bet on the front uj.
 
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That's what I'd look for too. There is a pin and spring mechanism between the two cross joints that fails over time. Earlier V-8 models used a single joint, only the 63-66 models used the CV joint, so converting to a single joint is fine.

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THANK you both for the advice..
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