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Tarbaby
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Posted: Sep/18/2017 at 6:35pm |
Ok bought a cute 71 Hornet sst and was making a list of items that need to be addressed and one being no ignition key. Now I'm very mechanically inclined and was thinking I could remove lock cylinder internally and have a key made or install a new lock cylinder. Any other suggestions ?. I'll call her Ruby.
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304-dude
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You can remove the steering wheel to release the lock from the column.
Back in the 80s, I was able to make a key reading the stamped numbers on the tumblers. Just be careful to keep them in order, else when assembling, you may have the wrong cut done. You may use a TSM to check how keys are set on the numbering system. My original key was factory cut very shallow at the base with a large tip end, so after time it would crack or just twist off when locking or unlocking. Thus breaking off in the ignition. It definitely had an odd key number when it was coded. |
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hassyfoto
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Some auto lock smiths can make a key from the lock still in the car. You may need to call around and find the right shop. As a auto tech, we have on call a lock smith to do exactly that. He works with a master key set ( like 45 different master keys) and a rubber key set to find the right key. A little filing and shaping and we have keys for customers cars ( we get a lot of cars towed in to the shop without keys), Obviously this is for older cars. The last 20 years, you can get a key made from the VIN number, but only through the dealer.
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pacerman
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You probably won't want to wait for it but if you can find any post 1969 AMC service manual it will tell you how to remove the lock cylinder. I believe you need any key that will fit in the cylinder and then after removing the steering wheel and anti-theft locking plate you have access to the cylinder. You need to insert a key in the ignition (any key that fits) and trip a little latch with a stiff piece of wire and remove the lock cylinder. You can take the cylinder to a locksmith and get a key made. If you have the original owner's manual for the car (not likely but possible) check the for the key codes in that book entered by the dealer that sold the car new. Joe
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jav343
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X2 on this. Certainly easiest option.The last time I had a key made like this I paid something like $50.00 call-out and $25.00 for the key. This was on my old 69 Charger. Took the locksmith something like 15 minutes or so. Might be more expensive these days. Call first |
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graewolf
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My American, the ignition+doors are the same, (old 74 Ford was too). Pulled lock out of door, took to locksmith. Made a key in minutes. My opinion, for what its worth, is less work taking door apart than the steering column. Cheaper than having them come to you.
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Tarbaby
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Door lock it is. Thanks for all the good suggestions
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White70JavelinSST
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I don't know if the steering column in a 77 suburban is the same as a 71 Hornet as far as the ignition key cylinders are concerned, but many years ago I took my 77 Suburban to a locksmith because the cylinder had ge-sproinged, meaning a little spring came sneaking out. The cylinder was junk. The lock smith threaded a sheetmetal screw into the cylinder and attached it to a slide hammer. A couple of whacks later the cylinder was out, he cleaned out the little broken pieces inside and slid a new one in. Problem solved. That cylinder and new key worked fine up to the day I sold the Burb.
I'm not suggesting you should try that with your Hornet, but it did work for the Suburban. |
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304-dude
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Should work the same... though the lock cylinder locking tab is silver grey, like nylon plastic. Using a slide hammer just snaps the tab off and may break enough to pop out the spring to keep it In position. Thus the cleaning out of the cylinder bore of the column. |
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javelinman74
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Just did this on my 77 Pacer, bought a new lock set and keys for $15 off e-bay.
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