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odd401
AMC Apprentice Joined: Jul/19/2014 Location: loveland Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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hi,im looking for info about my 727,cant find the part number on line,maybe not looking in the right place,stamped on the drivers side is pk3239817 7600 7302.trying to get a new torque converter,got ripped off on one,dude said it was a 2500 stall,he lied,now the front seal and pan are leaking,gotta replace them.trying to get this done asap so if anyone has info,please respond,thaks a bunch
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purple72Gremlin
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the TSM can tell you what year, but you need a bunch of them. I can tell you that it will be a 1972-78. providing it wasn't out of a Jeep which would be '80-91. Alot of torque converters are advertised as 2500 stall....problem is the engine, not the TC. A 727 is a 727. most parts are the same. 401 727s have 4 pin planets and few more clutches, and otherwise its the same.
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Wrambler
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Yea, depends on the torque output of the engine.
A smaller torque number means lower stall. You may need to move up to 3,000-3,500 stall to get what your particular combo needs. Best bet is to talk to whoever you want to buy from, if they can't talk you through getting what you want don't buy from them! |
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1970390amx
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I would talk to a converter builder regarding a stall converter. As stated the engine in front of the converter has a bunch to do with the stall of a converter. I would recommend pulling the pump and replacing the pump bushing, o-ring and gasket as well as the front seal. I cant tell you how many times I have seen just the front seal replaced and it still leaks. All 727s use the same 4 parts to seal the front. If you want to drive to Broomfield for parts I can get them for you. Or if you want help sealing the front let me know.
The offer above assumes you live in Loveland CO Edited by 1970390amx - Aug/21/2014 at 1:44pm |
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odd401
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thanks for the replies.not sure what the tsm is.i know a dude that owns a trans shop here in loveland,he's on vacation.so cant get info from him,should've just got the converter from him.looking at ones online,b and m has a few choices,but none of them fit a jeep j20,thats what im trying to determine,its not the original trans,bought it rebuilt ,so they said.last service was at 22 thou.had a bit of shavings in pan.still shifts good,but now it leaks.its at 42 thou. now.gonna do a filter and fliud change this weekend,so any clues to what year and what it came out of. pk3239817 7600 7302.thanks
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purple72Gremlin
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7600 is when it was made, 6000 is 1979. So I think your 727 was out of a Jeep and converted to 2wd. AMC did not use 727s in cars after 1978.......
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nickleone
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tsm= technical service manual. Year specific and model specific many times.
Eg Gremlin/hornet 1973, Eagle 1982 etc. Nick |
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odd401
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i bought it back in 04 from a trans shop that had been around for 35 years,my mom went to school with the guy so thats why i bought it.it appeared to be a 4 x4,no tail shaft.bolted to my np 208,no issues.besides every seal is leaking now.all the converters ive seen have the starter gear attached to the converter,mine is a separate piece.just looked into it and its toast,the new starter gear is shot too.another couple hundred bucks down the tube,damn my luck.thanks again for tips.
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carnuck
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Around '87, when Jeep went to XJ style starter, the converter bolt pattern and flexplate changed to even spacing as well. The teeth of the ring gear moved 3/8" closer to the motor too.
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odd401
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still looking for info,parts store has no clue.they list a 81 j20 with a 998 trans.i thought all fs jeeps with auto are 727?i need part numbers for front seal,pan gasket,filter,stall converter both output seals for a np208.i have looked up some info,but still need better info,cant find the number on my trans in the tsm.might be looking at it or cant find the correct info.i have a 81 wagon im thinking of using the trans to get me by till i get this one figured out.gonna get numbers off it in the morning.thanks for any info
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