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Kennedy9154 
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 Posted: May/26/2017 at 3:16pm |
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Well, I got a 5V regulator from a friend at work. Went out today to see what would be involved in taking the gauge panel out, and lo and behold, someone already did this fix. OK, it MUST be the fuses... Nope. All fuses are fine.
I ended up removing the one that was there, and in doing so, I can see that whoever did this little job seems to have tried to solder it directly to the printed circuit. I'm not sure thats the case, but it certainly looks like it, with the panel still in place, and there was a small piece of the printed circuit stuck to the wire that was the input. I'm not even sure it was in the right place. It certainly didn't look anything at all like the pic I saw in the link posted earlier. My guess at this point, is that the heat ruined the printed circuit panel, and it will have to be replaced. I will keep messing around with it, but my hope for this one is fading fast.
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farna
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Posted: May/26/2017 at 3:54pm |
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Those are thick printed circuit boards, not like the modern thin ones. You should be able to solder to a trace if necessary, but you really shouldn't have to. If you can get a small, short screw that will fit in the holes where the regulator was screw it in. As long as the edge of the screw head contacts the trace you will be fine.
Your board will be slightly different than the one shown in the article link I posted. That one is a 63 Classic. The regulator is the same though. This thread might help: http://theamcforum.com/forum/instrument-cluster-voltage-regulator-testing_topic80240.html Edited by farna - May/26/2017 at 4:06pm |
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Kennedy9154
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Posted: May/26/2017 at 4:38pm |
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I appreciate your quick response! I was wondering about something else... Would there be a way once I remove the panel and replace the regulator, to hook it to the battery and tell if it is going to work, with the panel out of the car? Or would I have to put it back in and hook everything back up?
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Posted: May/26/2017 at 7:25pm |
The only way would HAVE to have the harness plug attached to the cluster. If it's too short with the cluster out maybe you can figure out a way to get some more slack out of it. |
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Kennedy9154
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Posted: May/26/2017 at 8:37pm |
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I figured that. Havent even been able to get that one unplugged yet. I stopped working on it around 430 when my wife got home from work. I will pick it up in the morning.
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farna
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Posted: May/27/2017 at 10:39am |
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Spray that big round plug with WD-40 and let it sit for a while. Spray again then pry it off. Corrosion on the pins may be your gauge problems. Usually just removing and plugging back up will remove enough, but I'd get some spray electric contact cleaner and spray both the pins and plug real good before putting back in.
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Kennedy9154
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Posted: May/27/2017 at 2:52pm |
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Sounds like a plan. We live about 45 minutes from Summit Racing Equipment out by Akron Ohio. We rode out there this morning and I bought an external temp gauge just in case I cant figure this out. I don't think it's even overheating, but I know what can happen if it is so I want to get something working before we drive it anymore. I would much rather have the original and the gas hand with it, but I will use this if I have to.
Hey, thanks again for all your help and input. I really do appreciate any and all advice.
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Kennedy9154
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Well, I tried everything I know to try and can't get the temp/gas hands to work. I think I am just going to try to find another printed circuit and start fresh....if one can be found.
Also replaced the turn signal cam, but the little plastic horn ring was broken as well and I can't find a new one. ...and now, when I turn the signal on, I get both back, and nothing in front. Right about now, I'm wishing I had never seen this thing...LOL
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Posted: May/28/2017 at 11:50pm |
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how are you testing things? if you GROUND the gas tank sender line, the guage ought to read full. same with the temp sensor.
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Posted: May/29/2017 at 10:47pm |
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I think I have a 65 American instrument cluster you can have for the cost of shipping. I will look for it tomorrow if you want it. I am pretty sure the circuit board is undamaged. 65 cluster is the same as 64 except that there are (as I recall) black letters and numbers on a silver background). Joe
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