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gary7909
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Posted: Jan/29/2015 at 5:08am |
just as the title states i'm running a lot of ideas through my head and looking at pictures the base front end looks the same as my 67 american. i want to swap out the trunnions and stay as AMC as i can. and this "looks" like it may be doable. has anyone tried this? (I just put up another post about modifying the lower ball joint for ex.) hornet/american can the suspension be swapped?
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Wrambler
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Pretty sure the track width is wider on the Hornet.
Meaning adding the Hornet pieces to the American will make the suspension Hornet width. You'll need to go to a new car heavy on the backspacing type wheel. Plus all the fitment issues to get the correct geometry on the spring towers. |
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ramblinrev
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Not without major changes....including to the unibody inner fenders/suspension mounts.
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SC397
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The crossmembers are the same between the American, Gremlin, Hornet etc... You would have to change the spring towers for the rest.
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gary7909
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sweet thank you guys for the info. just trying to find a less expensive way of switching out the trunnion to a ball jointed upper a arm
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uncljohn
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Can it be swapped? Yes it can, if you know what you are doing and good with a welder. I have seen a javelin front suspension swapped into a trunion equiped original car, but it required cutting out and installing the Javelin spring tower into the inner fender panel. I just think that the job would be over the head of the average back yard repair men. I think it would be out of my league so the words inexpensive alternative just do not seem to apply.
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gary7909
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do'ly noted
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farna
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There's nothing wrong with trunnions. Newly rebuilt ones use poly bushings that will outlast the originals, which typically lasted 30+ years. You can't get but about 3 degrees caster before the bushings bind, but other than that trunnions are as good as ball joints. They are a bit pricey when rebuilding, but cheaper than changing out to something else. If you're doing it just because you don't like the trunnions I'd reconsider.
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toolmanxiii
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i remember someone here posting pic's of how they did it . just can't fine the post .
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farna
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That was probably in a Javelin or AMX, but the procedure is the same. I remember seeing the photos... can't find anything about it though. Maybe someone who has done this work will chime in. In the end, of you have a donor car for the towers and other front suspension components it's not too bad -- if you can weld and wield a spot weld remover, and have lots of time...
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Frank Swygert
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