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Scene One 
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 Topic: Help with headersPosted: Apr/28/2017 at 8:10pm |
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I know this question has been asked many times before and I have tried the search engine, but for some reason I am unable to get it to work. I have a 1971 AMX javelin and planned on purchasing headers from Control Freak but that's not going to happen. I first contacted them over a year ago but at that time they said they were out of stock. I e-mailed them on a regular basis and they kept promising me they would be getting them in but it never happened, eventually they stopped responding so I called and left a message but no response. Well today I spoke with them and I found out that they no longer have a company making them but hope to someday not anytime soon though. That brings me to the question, what brand header is the best to go with? I know some would say to go with free flows but I think I would prefer headers so any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. My car has a 401 engine and Edelbrock heads it also has a 4 speed. Thank you in advance for any and all opinions
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53w
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Posted: Apr/29/2017 at 1:43am |
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If i had it to do all over i would go with the shorty headers..dont know who currently makes them for 71-74 javelin
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tufcj
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Posted: Apr/29/2017 at 3:35am |
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Patriot Exhaust. P/N H8600. You can get them thru Summit. Won't fit the small body though.
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74 Javelin AMX 67 Rogue If you need a tool and don't buy it... you'll eventually pay for it... and not have it. Henry Ford |
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Mopar_guy
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Posted: Apr/29/2017 at 11:57am |
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I've had both and unless you want/need maximum performance, I'd never use a long tube again. Just not worth the hassle and ground clearance if you drive it much.
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Scene One
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Posted: May/05/2017 at 2:14pm |
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How about this if I went with long tube headers which is the best fit Hedmans Doug's or Hookers. I still for some reason cannot do a search on this site not sure what the problem is. I know this subject has been discussed many times.
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304-dude
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Posted: May/05/2017 at 2:46pm |
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Scene One, there is a cool read on long tube headers. Can't remember the name of the poster, but did a nice job doing a wee modification to make a perfect fit. I think Greyhound or what ever... will look into doing some elfin magic and see what I come up with.
Yep I found it... i think you are capable of pulling off this type of mod. http://theamcforum.com/forum/header-hack_topic80213.html Edited by 304-dude - May/05/2017 at 2:51pm |
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390 69 crank, 70 block & heads NASCAR SB2 rods & pistons 78 Jeep TH400 w/ 2.76 Low 50/50 Ford-AMC Suspension 79 F150 rear & 8.8 axles Ford Racing 3.25 gears & 9" /w Detroit locker |
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Posted: May/05/2017 at 3:31pm |
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I run the Doug's on my 1970 Javelin with 401 and Eddy aluminum heads. I had a 727 in it and needed to clearance the passenger side headers just a bit to clear the transmission. I also had to clearance even more than alotted for the headbolts. Clearancing for the headbolts was easy because the motor was on a stand at the time so the 10 or so times of test fit/grind/test fit/grind was simple. Trying to get it just right in the car would have been possible but a much bigger hassle. However, I do have to say they are a nice set of headers, well made and once clearanced go on and off very easy.
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Posted: May/05/2017 at 8:52pm |
Thanks 304 and shootist, I like the idea of making mods if need be to get a good fit. Even better if they made a good fitting header. I guess I will look into getting a set of Doug's unpainted and see what happens from there. I have held up installing the strut rods, steering column and clutch linkage till my headers were in so I guess we'll see how it goes. One more question, is it best to go with bolts or studs for attaching them? Thank you both again for your response's |
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Posted: May/06/2017 at 7:10pm |
Do you mean these shorty Patriot headers won't fit the OP's '71 AMX? |
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Posted: May/06/2017 at 7:31pm |
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I use bolts on my Doug's headers. Again, after a little grinding of the flange where they just didn't quite and clearancing the passenger side a bit to clear the 727 they were great. They really do not hang too low. Not as low as some others that I have had in the past.
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