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clanofwolves
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Posted: Apr/07/2016 at 4:02pm |
So.....as my restoration saga continues, I have found problems with the Bellhousing that I purchased on ebay; ie. it has some stripped bolt-holes. The seller will refund my money if I return it; which is good. However, that delays the reassembly of the drive-train further and I'm not guaranteed a good working Bellhousing no matter where it comes from I'm afraid. I've heard of people using Helicoils in repairing stripped bolt connections, but I have no experience whatsoever about these. I assume a large drill press is best so they can be installed exactly where and aligned perfectly....machine shop in other words.
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304-dude
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I'd remove it and have it welded and rethread it. They may work but, i learned the hard way never fudge something just to get it done. It will eventually come to being a problem again.
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6PakBee
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I'm assuming the stripped holes are the transmission mounting? I wouldn't have any problem using Helicoils as a repair procedure. If you are still hesitant, the following item is also a repair procedure for a stripped internal thread. The only drawback is that they require a larger hole than a Helicoil.
https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/11138991;jsessionid=B1A6A87B0E6C987316B23A8403AAE7F9.fcomjvm04?r=~|categoryl1:"600000 Fasteners"|~ ~|categoryl2:"600186 Thread Repair"|~ ~|categoryl3:"600189 Threaded Inserts"|~ As to drilling them, any reasonable sized drill press should give you acceptable accuracy if you don't do something stupid like too rapid feed or trying to go to final size in one step. |
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Roger Gazur
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amcgearhead
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I,m a tool and die maker and know a little bit,I guess.Anyhow,I wouldn't trust the Helicoil's in my aluminum bell housing.There is a lot of pressure and torque. If they were welded and retapped, it would probably be costly.Whoever that would do it would weld the holes completely shut,then redrill and tap.The kicker is if they didn't take any measurements,then the hole alignment would be off. Bad deal.I think I would send it back and find another one.I would ask for hole pics on the next one,shouldn't be a problem.Minor set back,I know.I'm restoring my 1972 Javelin and have fun sometimes too. Yeah!!
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vinny
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I think helicoils are an approved repair for many things. I've used them and seen them used and never seen a failure. They would be better than original in an aluminum bell housing. The initial outlay for the tap and inserts might be a bit pricey though. If the thread is deep sometimes you can get two inserts in end to end.
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ttrrogg
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No on the helicoils, weld the holes and tap, or tap one size larger, or weld nuts on the back side. that's my 2 cents been in this game a long time.
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turbo
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helicoils are stronger than original
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partsguy
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helicoils should be the last thing you try,just my option
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WesternRed
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Helicoils are often used in new aluminium parts because they are stronger and more durable than threading directly into the aluminium. I wouldn't hesitate to use them as a repair in this situation.
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THE MENACE
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X2 on welding! Then there will be no question in your mind if it will hold up. You could even add material to the inside (more threads) for added strength. Nothing wrong with a little overkill IMO! Dennis |
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