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Eagle 258 with oil soaked air cleaner |
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MIPS
AMC Nut Joined: Mar/11/2019 Location: Kamloops, BC Status: Offline Points: 347 |
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Replaced the valve cover gasket and found the PCV breather now builds a vacuum when plugged with a thumb and does so even harder with a hard engine rev. I guess it really was just a really badly leaking valve cover gasket.
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FSJunkie
AMC Addicted Joined: Jan/09/2011 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Status: Offline Points: 4742 |
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Yeah, that'll do it. The crankcase needs to seal for the PCV to work. Otherwise it might as well not be there at all. It's very bad for the engine to run with a leaking valve cover. Some of the problems it causes other than making a mess of the engine and air cleaner:
1. Reduced PCV effectiveness lets the crankcase fill with blow-by rather than sucking it out and replacing it with clean air. The blow-by turns the oil acidic or forms sludge. 2. The leaking gasket creates a direct path for dirty outside air to be drawn into the crankcase rather than only clean, filtered air from the breather. This grit goes to work on the rings and cylinder walls. How big of a difference does it make? Tons. My first AMC six had so much cylinder wear at 116,000 miles that it needed a .040" overbore at that time. My second AMC six had so little cylinder wear at 167,000 miles that it's just got a hone and new rings at that time and is still running as strong as ever to this day on it's original bore and pistons. The difference? Valve cover sealing and breather filter maintenance. |
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1955 Packard
1966 Marlin 1972 Wagoneer 1973 Ambassador 1977 Hornet 1982 Concord D/L 1984 Eagle Limited |
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MIPS
AMC Nut Joined: Mar/11/2019 Location: Kamloops, BC Status: Offline Points: 347 |
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Nah, it's still doing it.
So after the last PCV filter change I wiped down the air cleaner and removed all residual oil, except the oil contaminated filter because I did not want to ruin another filter if I was possibly wrong. Two weeks later: It's not the PCV. There's no oil around the breather filter and the filter is still clean. The oil slick indicates that it is coming from somewhere within the clean side of the filter element. I'd immediately blame the filter itself but that's an awful lot of oil. The vehicle does not have issues with backfiring, nor did the compression test indicate an obvious stuck intake valve. There is also no excessive oil consumption either. |
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Greyhounds_AMX
AMC Addicted Joined: Nov/14/2009 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 1268 |
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I believe the oil film you see in the pics came out of the old oil soaked air filter. Everything else looks good, so I expect if you swap in a new filter that should wrap this up.
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1968 AMX 390 w/T5
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MIPS
AMC Nut Joined: Mar/11/2019 Location: Kamloops, BC Status: Offline Points: 347 |
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Okay, I'll swap out the cleaner element and replace the breather element as well.
For those wondering if I'm just buying new PCV filters each time, no. I'm cutting small rectangular chunks from a roll of white open-cell foam padding and repacking the original FRAM filter cartridge. |
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FSJunkie
AMC Addicted Joined: Jan/09/2011 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Status: Offline Points: 4742 |
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Yeah that's probably just from the soaked filter.
Make sure the inner vacuum door of the air cleaner is open any time the engine is running and that the vacuum delay valve holds it open for a while even after the engine is shut off. Make sure the outer vacuum door is open after the engine is fully warmed up. |
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MIPS
AMC Nut Joined: Mar/11/2019 Location: Kamloops, BC Status: Offline Points: 347 |
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When I was doing maintenance yesterday I replaced all the vacuum lines for both doors and verified the TAC valve and both actuators were working.
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