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Originally posted by 68 amc 68 amc wrote:

I run the mopar valves or Milodon 2.08 &1.74 they are 3/8 stem ,Chevy are 11/16 

Did you have to cut the intake seat to 45 degree to use mopar valves. AMC intake have 30 degree seat. Some say 30 is better others say 45. Also did you have to do head work to the compression area to make things work. Larry
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You can install these in factory heads by cutting new seats. The exhaust seats are not hard enough for unleaded fuel. But, there is little to no gain in using larger valves unless you've done a good job porting the heads. With flowbench data, not, "this looks great". Read the flow data by Ken Parkman in the locked thread.

The Chrysler valves are just not a good choice- they're shorter and heavier than the SBC valves and it makes no sense to use them - you should be installing bronze guides and at that point just use the SBC valves.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken_Parkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/05/2019 at 8:29am
BTW I do not install larger valves in iron heads any more.
I've had very good success with 2.02/1.625 sbc valves. You get a port that is less likely to flow separate at high lift and an overall more efficient port. The iron head csa is all wrong for a larger valve. Of course it can be done, and can be made to work well, but to do it properly and get anywhere close to a proper port design is an absolutely insane amount of work. In todays world if you need a valve that big go buy the heads with the proper design to begin with - it's a lot cheaper and more effective.
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I remember the last time that this topic was discussed, Ferrea valves were mentioned.  I think I am going to go that route in a size close to stock.  A guide replacement is necessary for the smaller stems but IIRC, that was the only change necessary to use them.
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Good comments on the Chrysler valves.  Heavy and short.  By using a SBC intake and a Ford Exhaust you have choices of 2.02, 2.05 and 2.08 for intakes and 1.6, 1.65  chevy, 1.71 or 1.76 ford for exhaust.  So you can match valve size to whatever your goals are.  For high lift flow, 45 degree seat is usually preferred.  Not sure how to cut a 45 degree seat and not go to a bigger valve.  My opinion is 2.05/1.71 is close enough to stock it doesn't hurt anything.  Advantages are you can pick the length, material, and size to suit the application and valve spring you want from a wide variety of choices and get a significantly lighter valve.  I also think it is relatively easy to put an 11/32 valve guide insert in the stock guides and most of the heads I have seen lately are wallowed out pretty good on valve seats and valve guides.
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Even if you had a new AMC iron casting you still would want bronze guides and the "PC" positive seals for a performance build. So why would you use 3/8 stems? Again, it makes no sense to me.

I did it 25 yrs ago because I didn't know any better and it was more common at the time.

And if you read Ken's data, the stock 2.02 size valve will flow a lot of air if you know how to port the heads properly. And it takes a flow bench to reach that point.
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