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AMC Addicted Joined: Apr/17/2010 Location: pennslyvania Status: Offline Points: 568 |
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I would like to put wider rims and tires on the rear axle. What the widest rim and tire that will fit on the rear of a 70 AMX without any modifications? What was the backspacing of the original rims? Thanks
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1987 J20, 87 Grand Wagoneer,70AMX,
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bcsideshow
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I run 275/50-15's. They rub slighlty on big bumps. my car is lowered though. Depending on where you are ride height will affect this. My wheels are 15x8 with 4.5" back space.
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1969 SCRambler "B"
1970 AMX 390 Auto 1968 AMX 390 Auto 1970 Rebel Machine Project 1969 AMX 390 4SPD Project 1969 AMX 390 Auto Project 1969 Javelin 390 project 1997 Cherokee lifted 1998 TJ Lifted |
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1970390amx
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1970 390 4speed Bittersweet shadow mask AMX
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bcsideshow
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I'll check tonight. I know close. I think it was about an inch.
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1969 SCRambler "B"
1970 AMX 390 Auto 1968 AMX 390 Auto 1970 Rebel Machine Project 1969 AMX 390 4SPD Project 1969 AMX 390 Auto Project 1969 Javelin 390 project 1997 Cherokee lifted 1998 TJ Lifted |
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Kensey
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Jack it up and the sky is the limit on how big the meats can be!!! VROOM!!!
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Gremmy Power!!!
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cone
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1987 J20, 87 Grand Wagoneer,70AMX,
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bcsideshow
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Up an approach, while turning, yes. Fronts are 15x7. 225/70-15 I think... I'll check. I have control freak tubular suspension on the front and the coil overs are adjusted as low as possible. 2" lowering blocks in the rear. I plan to adjust the front up a little. I also ran 255/60-15's on the rear without being lowered. Had about 2" to the spring clearance and rubbed the same on the quarter. Those wheels were only 3.5" back space. Didn't look as nice. Oh, I did roll my front fender lip a little. Nothing on the rear. Fenders are easier to replace...
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1969 SCRambler "B"
1970 AMX 390 Auto 1968 AMX 390 Auto 1970 Rebel Machine Project 1969 AMX 390 4SPD Project 1969 AMX 390 Auto Project 1969 Javelin 390 project 1997 Cherokee lifted 1998 TJ Lifted |
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PHAT69AMX
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'69 AMX
15x8 rim, 4-1/2" backspace, 255/60/15 tire = 1"+ to leaf spring 15x8 rim, 5-1/2" backspace, 255/60/15 tire = ~1/8" to leaf spring imho a 5 inch backspace 15x8 rim would be "ideal" if available. An 8" rim, 5" b.s., 255/60/15 should have 1/2"+ leaf spring clearance. 8" rim, 5" b.s., 275/50-60/15 should have 1/4"+ leaf spring clearance. A 255 section width tire is 10" wide at the widest point on the sidewall when mounted on an 8" rim. Ideally specified rim width is 2" narrower than the tire section. A 275 section tire is 10.82" wide at the widest point on the sidewall, so would say they'd still be "ok" on an 8" rim, too narrow for 10" rim imho |
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Phat's numbers are right on. About 3/4" from tire to Spring.
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1969 SCRambler "B"
1970 AMX 390 Auto 1968 AMX 390 Auto 1970 Rebel Machine Project 1969 AMX 390 4SPD Project 1969 AMX 390 Auto Project 1969 Javelin 390 project 1997 Cherokee lifted 1998 TJ Lifted |
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PHAT69AMX
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I had "newer" Leaf Springs and "sometimes" on big bumps the rear 255/60/15 tires on 15x8 w/ 4-1/2" backspace WOULD RUB on the rear fender inner lip, but only right at the spot where the vertical "curl" of the body shape causes the rear wheel opening to "crossover" the corner of the rear tire at about the 2 & 10 o'clock positions.
Always feel compelled to say about rim size & backspace & etc dimensions & measurements, "Stated" rim sizes are to the Bead Seat on the Rim, NOT the bare rim lip-to-lip overall measurements. Generally, a bare Rim overall lip-to-lip physically measures 1 inch more that it's Stated Size. But oddly imho, Backspace IS measured from the LIP to the Hub Mounting Surface. So.... a Stated 15x8 Rim measures 16x9 overall lip-to-lip, so 4-1/2" backspace is 0" (zero) Offset. a Stated 15x8 Rim measures 16x9 overall lip-to-lip, so 5-1/2" backspace is 1" inch Offset. I always fail to remember which direction is called Positive Offset and/or Negative Offset. Some additional possibly useful reference info: 1969 AMX Stock Wheels and Tires misc Info: AMX Trim Rings are 2.5" wide AMX Center Caps are 1-7/8 tall, 2-3/4 base dia & 2-1/4 top dia Center Cap Dish is 1/4 deep x 1-7/8 top & 1-3/4 btm dia AMX Center Hub Bore Diameter INFO: > AMC CTR Hub Hole Dia = 2.815/2.830 I.D measured old stock stl rim > Mosr CTR Hub Axle Dia = 2.815 O.D measured Moser Axle > Ford CTR Hub Hole Dia = 2.785 ???? per a forum post > Weld Whl Hub Hole Dia = 3.180 inch ? PER WEB SPEC Stock Tire Info: Std = ~25" dia. = 6.95x14 w/ 14x5.5 Rims: BIAS BIAS & BELTED NON METRIC METRIC PLY BIAS PLY RADIAL PLY RADIAL PLY 6.95x14 C78-14 CR70-14 CR78-14 215/60-14 175/80-14 -------------- O.D. = 24.16" ... 25.02" Opt = ~26" dia. = E70-14 w/ 14x6 Rims: BIAS BIAS & BELTED NON METRIC METRIC PLY BIAS PLY RADIAL PLY RADIAL PLY 7.35-14 E60-14 E70-14 E78-14 ER70-14 DR78-14 255/60-14 215/70-14 185/80-14 -------------- O.D. = 26.00" .. 25.90" .. 25.65" Std - Tires = E-78-14 (6.95x14) with Rims = 5.5 x 14 with ?.?? Backspacing Opt - Tires = E or F-70-14 with Rims = 6.0 x 14 with 4.00 Backspacing (measured mine) 6" rim measures 7 inches wide / 2 = 3.5 b.s. when there is 0.0 Offset so stock 6" rims with 4" backspace have 1/2" Offset so Hub to Hub is greater than Track Width by 2 times the 1/2 offset, or 1 inch Hub to Hub, both front and rear, is 1.0 inch greater than stock Track Width dimensions based on stock wheel offset. 1968-69 Track Width Dims from TSM: 59.38 inch = Front Hub to Hub = 58.38 Stock Front Track + 1.0 inch 58.00 inch = Rear Hub to Hub = 57.00 Stock Rear Track + 1.0 inch 1970 Track Width dims from AMA Data sheets: 60.30 inch = Front Hub to Hub = I6 59.30 Stock Front Track + 1.0 inch 60.70 inch = Front Hub to Hub = V8 59.70 Stock Front Track + 1.0 inch 58.00 inch = Rear Hub to Hub = 57.00 Stock Rear Track + 1.0 inch ------------------------------------------------------- "Calculated" distance between sidewalls of 255/60/15 on 5-1/2 backspace. 255mm = 10.04 ÷ 2 = 5.02 + 1.0 offset = 6.02 Hub to Inner Sidewall 12.04 = 2 * 6.02 Hub to inner sidewall on each side 58.00 hub to hub - 12.04 = 45.96 = "calculated" between Sidewalls .......... versus 46.00 = measured outside to outside of the Leaf Springs ........ reference 2.50 = Width of Leaf Springs ------------------------------------------------------- |
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