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Originally posted by 1strlcuckoo2 1strlcuckoo2 wrote:


I am in need of a shifter  for my 74 Gremlin 3 speed as the original is shot Cryand with the cam, headers, 4bbl it needs replaced or I need an AMC 4 speed tranny to swap in. All help appreciated.Clap


As hard as it has been for you to find the right parts to correct your shifter, it will be easier than swapping a 4-speed in. Not only is it hard to find a good one that does not need an immediate rebuild, you would also need a new bellhousing, driveshaft, cut a larger hole in your floor, and some other things. It is a lot of work.

Have you checked with a place like Summit Racing to see if there is an aftermarket piece like a Hurst 3-speed shifter than might replace yours?
Son's car: '73 Gremlin X, 401, T-10, Mopar 8.75 rear with 3.23 sure grip. My car: '70 Newport Convertible, 440 automatic
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I thought all the standard transmissions matched up to the 74 and newer bell housings.  A Hurst shifter and kit runs about $400 and then there is the modifications on install.
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Originally posted by Greyhounds_AMX Greyhounds_AMX wrote:

Does it look like this? Photo courtesy of Kirkwood.
 

 

I had this setup in my ’72 Gremlin 232 and the shifter tip kept slipping between the two rods because the bushing was so worn out. Eventually it blew 1st though as it had no synchros into 1st and I lived in Duluth (a city built entirely on a hillside). I replaced it with a synchro’d trans from a Gremlin X 258 car that the Hollander said wouldn’t fit but did, the only difference was the shifter was moved back an inch or so and I just covered the larger hole with a larger boot.

 

To get the $50 trans out the junk yard guy backed his Caterpillar up to the Gremmie, drug a chain across the roof and smashed out the passenger side glass and quarter windows with the hook on the chain, looped it around the door post, and then pulled the Gremmie onto it’s side with the Cat. Then he ran the torch hoses across the car and proceeded to cut the driveshaft, crossmember, and I can’t remember if he cut the bellhousing or unbolted the trans, but the whole smoldering works fell on the ground in a heap. “There you go - pick it up” he said.


My god that brings back some memories...only not good ones. My 69 Jav had that thing in it and it was wore out pretty good. Was leaving a 4th of july fireworks show (With only 2 ways to get out of beach area) and I was creeping uphill with traffic and it decided to lock into both gears as the both levers moved instead of one and i'm on a hill which is keeping a load on the gears.....Had to wait till all traffic cleared after everyone yelling things like "POS AMC, Move that hunk of crap etc..." and jack up car and fix....sorry to hijack thread but I just had to...make sure whatever you do, you rebuild so that never happens to you...I'm scarred for life Wink
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Originally posted by 1strlcuckoo2 1strlcuckoo2 wrote:

I thought all the standard transmissions matched up to the 74 and newer bell housings.  A Hurst shifter and kit runs about $400 and then there is the modifications on install.


No. If you were to find and use a T-10, it requires an 8" deep bell; the one you currently have is a 6" deep bell. Finding a deeper one is becoming very hard these days. We did this swap to my Son's Gremlin; it takes quite a bit of work.
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thanks for the info.
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