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1600buggy
AMC Fan Joined: Aug/05/2015 Location: Vermont Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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Posted: Aug/05/2015 at 9:43pm |
Hi all. I have a 68 javelin originally was a 6 cyl car now a 343 auto. We really want to do a swap to a manual transmission but have some questions. What tranny is best. Using the search I've seen t5s and t10s. We were thinking t10. How hard is this swap and will a different lenght driveshaft be needed. Car is a driver for the streets. What gearing is best too to keep it snappy but drivable. Would be doing the job ourselves so just testing out the waters for now. Thanks a lot!
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amc401t10
AMC Addicted Joined: Mar/09/2009 Location: east tn Status: Offline Points: 903 |
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I vote for a t10 ,check the for sale section, their were 2 their for sale a couple weeks ago.
U will need pedals and clutch linkage and pivots,the bell housings are getting harder to find. And a flywheel and clutch kit( I like center force). |
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1-owner 74 gremlin x 401, t10,3.73 12 bolt,750carb,reed 250@50 cam, roller rockers,msd,offy int.
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Red Devil
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/10/2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1743 |
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Most AMC T10s have 2.23 1st gear. Unless you have a 4.10 rear, it's not particularly snappy off idle. So if you gear it to be snappy, it's not the most cruise friendly.
Do you do much interstate driving and want a reasonable cruise rpm? If so, I'd vote for a T5 w/ 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 .63 matched with a 3.54 or 3.73 rear gear. For a stronger transmission option, Richmond 5 speed, 6 speed, Tremec TKO and T56 have also been done, but higher cost. Think all will need a different driveshaft, modifications to the transmission crossmember (except maybe T10) and some trimming for shifter, since the car was an auto. Since T10 was stock, likely simplest if you can find all the parts. T5 is well documented on the Forum, so lots of good info to get the job done. Hope this helps,RD. |
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javsst
AMC Nut Joined: Jul/02/2007 Location: Lebanon, NJ Status: Offline Points: 435 |
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Wouldn't a rebalance of the engine be needed if you're going from a flexplate to a flywheel?
The reason I'm asking is that I have a 360/TF727 setup in my 69 AMX now, and am thinking of putting in a T-10 I have spare. But my understanding was that you should rebalance the rotating assembly and was going to do it down the road when I start putting my 390 together. Thanks! Steve |
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Red Devil
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/10/2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1743 |
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If you have the original flexplate that was balanced with the engine, just take it and your flywheel to a competent shop and have the flywheel match balanced to the flexplate. That's what I did and worked fine ... just took a bit to find a shop that could do it.
Hope this helps, RD. |
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Tomerekson
AMC Apprentice Joined: Jan/03/2013 Location: Leslie, MI Status: Offline Points: 213 |
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Did the BW auto to T10 swap in a 70 AMX this past winter. Finding some parts is challenging, but not impossible. OEM Hurst shifters and linkage are pricey, but available. My biggest challenge was the clutch linkage as my car has a fabricated aftermarket exhaust (Patriot) and I would have had to change it to use the stock mechanical linkage, so I put in a hydraulic throwout bearing. While it works great now, it was a challenge getting it in, connected, bled, and working. Let me know if you decide to go with a hydraulic clutch, perhaps I can help you avoid some of my challenges.
If you decide to go with a T10 I have an extra T10 with Hurst shifter that I might be willing to part with. Tom |
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1600buggy
AMC Fan Joined: Aug/05/2015 Location: Vermont Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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Thanks everybody. I am unsure of the rear gearing. Will look soon. Sounds like I need to know. I think we could do a mechanical clutch. Easier than a hydrolic although it sounds sweet. We have found a super t10 here at a car show with a date code of 76. Any way to tell the gears. without opening it up.No linkage or bell housing. Asking $300. Yea or nea on this? Also is the 343 a fine spline shaft as this tranny is. Thanks again.
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1600buggy
AMC Fan Joined: Aug/05/2015 Location: Vermont Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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Okay, so have finally gotten back to this. We have decided to go t-10. Most driving is around town but we do go hit the interstate fairly often as well. I found a bellhousing and plate locally for $120 but still don't have the tranny itself. I was told AMC had borg use a special input shaft on their t-10,s and I must find an AMC specific one. Does this have any truth to it or no? I need to hang a clutch pedal, does anyone have the pedal assembly for a manual car? Lastly, I need a flywheel. If anybody has any of this stuff or knows where I can get it, it would be greatly appreciated.
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1970390amx
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/11/2008 Location: colorado Status: Offline Points: 3311 |
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An amc t10 is different from the t10s made for other manufacturers. There are different amc bellhousings hope you have found the right one, I believe it should be around 8" deep. There are shorter ones for other transmission applications. Post an ad in the wanted section for items you are looking for.
bellhousing flywheel throwout bearing fork clutch assembly transmission shifter output yoke clutch pedal linkage from pedal to fork 68-69 linkage is different than other years and I may have missed a few things |
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