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mdh157
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Posted: Jul/07/2020 at 8:17pm |
I noticed today while working on my 67 ambo that the left wheel is the drive wheel. I thought the drive wheels on an open were always on the right? Also while the left wheel is moving quickly the right wheel moves a bit, very slowly. How is that possible on an open rear?
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'67 Ambassador DPL/3 spd/OD
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Trader
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The open rear will always take the route with the least resistance. It could be a bit of brake drag, tighter bearings, tire wear ... Nothing to usually worry about.
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billd
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There is no "Drive wheel" if you look at any differential logically!
As Trader says - which ever wheel has the traction will move the vehicle. There's no drive wheel. Each receives EXACTLY the same amount of torque. They have to - the carrier gears are both pushing on the axle or side gears equally. Now under really heavy acceleration there is a tendency of one side to raise up and the other be pushed down due to the forces counter-acting the forces on the pinion. And the pinion wants to climb up the ring gear. But then again, we're still talking that both axles receive the same amount of torque - if one lets loose it's because of traction, pressures, those forces, not that one is a drive wheel and the other not. It's about weight transfer. All things being equal, if the brakes were removed, bearings had the exact same resistance to spin, with the rear off the ground both wheels would spin exactly the same. I wonder if that "drive wheel" thing is something left over from the 1920s............ In short, there is no "drive wheel". Both get equal torque applied. How could one be favored over the other?
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Trader
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Build is absolutely correct and provides a good description.
Open differential "drive wheel" was an old term based on one side spinning or breaking free first. People would misinterpret this as the wheel that got the most torque rather then the wheel that lost traction first. If you ever got stuck in the snow you knew to put the car in second gear, rock it back and forth and NOT have a wheel spin or your just going to dig yourself in further, torque is equal to both wheels until one spins. The right wheel would typically loose traction first as this is were you find the most gravel, dirt, snow buildup ... on the road. The center of the road is usually the cleanest.
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343sharpstick
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tomj
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This! Also in a turn there's differing radii, weight shift, braking, ... Another trick in snow is to partly apply the parking brake. It of course applies to both wheels, but once a tire overcomes "stiction" it's lost... it helps with that, slightly, and slows the spin when it does happen. The best way is to live somewhere without snow, which has been my proven solution to wheel spin. |
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