INFO, H20 PUMP, PULLEY, BRKTS, BELTS, EARLY & LATE

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   Doing research, mechanical drawing background.

Might someone be so kind to get and share the below dimensions
for the early Short Water Pump AMC 1972 & older

# 319 3354 = Water Pump / Fan Pulley and
# 448 7181 = Crank / Dampner 3-Bolt Pulley ?

No longer have parts on-hand.  Did get dimensions from a 1973 4-Bolt 401 set-up, see sketch.

Wanting to do a dimensional stack-up comparison between early and late and see
by dimensions just what the Fan Belt Centerline location difference might come out to...

Below are pulley dimensions are from a 1973 401 Ambassador Wagon with TALL Water Pump
# 321 6614 = Water Pump / Fan Pulley
# 321 6613 = Crank / Dampener 4-Bolt Pulley

What is needed / requested are these dimensions for the early short water pump pulleys called out above and the only have 1 or 2 grooves I'm pretty sure, single groove info would be fine.  Thanks

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PHAT69AMX Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/07/2007 Location: West Virginia Status: Offline Points: 5918	Post Options Post Reply Quote PHAT69AMX Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: INFO, H20 PUMP, PULLEY, BRKTS, BELTS, EARLY & LATE Posted: Feb/18/2020 at 3:36pm
	Doing research, mechanical drawing background. Might someone be so kind to get and share the below dimensions for the early Short Water Pump AMC 1972 & older # 319 3354 = Water Pump / Fan Pulley and # 448 7181 = Crank / Dampner 3-Bolt Pulley ? No longer have parts on-hand. Did get dimensions from a 1973 4-Bolt 401 set-up, see sketch. Wanting to do a dimensional stack-up comparison between early and late and see by dimensions just what the Fan Belt Centerline location difference might come out to... Below are pulley dimensions are from a 1973 401 Ambassador Wagon with TALL Water Pump # 321 6614 = Water Pump / Fan Pulley # 321 6613 = Crank / Dampener 4-Bolt Pulley What is needed / requested are these dimensions for the early short water pump pulleys called out above and the only have 1 or 2 grooves I'm pretty sure, single groove info would be fine. Thanks
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Trader Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: May/15/2018 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 6875	Post Options Post Reply Quote Trader Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb/18/2020 at 4:40pm
	This is a 67 343 Crankshaft, don't have the water pump pulley:

PHAT69AMX Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/07/2007 Location: West Virginia Status: Offline Points: 5918	Post Options Post Reply Quote PHAT69AMX Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb/26/2020 at 1:45pm
	This is a picture of the AMC V8 mid-68 thru 1972 early short water pump FAN / WATER PUMP PULLEY # 319 3354 that dimensions from are being sought. It would be greatly appreciated if someone who has one could post some dimensions like shown in the previous sketch so a dimensional stack-up can be done. Understanding is it is 6-1/4" Diameter and 2-5/16" +/- 2-3/8" 'deep' overall. Pretty sure it is stamped with only an 'S' and not the above part number, Thanks
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Trader Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: May/15/2018 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 6875	Post Options Post Reply Quote Trader Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb/26/2020 at 4:27pm
	According to the Jeep Forums: Pulleys: Early "wide" pulley 3.50" tall 3186331 Later "narrow" pulley 2.31" tall 3193354 A lot of details on this page: https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/jeep-no-name-teardown-rebuild-1261179/index14.html

PHAT69AMX Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/07/2007 Location: West Virginia Status: Offline Points: 5918	Post Options Post Reply Quote PHAT69AMX Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb/26/2020 at 4:37pm
	Understanding is the 1st 1967 AMC V8's thru mid year 1968 had a different height water pump. Mid 1968 per Notes 2-9 & 2-10 is when the 'short' AMC V8 Water pump came out. Currently working dimensional stack-up comparison between 68-72 'short pump' & 73 & Up 'long pump'. This is from the 1967-72 AMC Parts Manual. Note 2-9 = Fan Pulley is 3-1/2" wide ( deep ). On 68 01 (V8) used prior to Car Sequence No. E-054597; On 68 10 (V8) prior to W-060595; On 68 30 used prior to Car Sequence No. E-049017; On 68 70 used prior to Car Sequence No. E-049017; and On 68 80 (V8) prior to W-061846. Note 2-10 = Fan Pulley is 2-5/16" wide ( deep ). On 68 01 (V8) used beginning with Car Sequence No. E-054597; On 68 10 (V8) used beginning with W-060595; On 68 30 used beginning with Car Sequence No. E-049017; On 68 70 used beginning with Car Sequence No. E-049017; and On 68 80 (V8) used beginning with W-061846. Edited by PHAT69AMX - Feb/26/2020 at 4:46pm
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PHAT69AMX Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/07/2007 Location: West Virginia Status: Offline Points: 5918	Post Options Post Reply Quote PHAT69AMX Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Apr/02/2020 at 5:56pm
	Might someone please have an early WATER PUMP PULLEY they would measure like the above sketch and post the dimensions of? Since we're all on lockdown figured someone might maybe.
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