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NEW! Rambler/AMX steering gears... Borgeson
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Tom,
Did you use the steering box you ordered?

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Yes, it's been in this whole time, and I haven't thought about it since.

I got the Lares rebuilt from RockAuto.
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Was the spline count and diameter of the pitman arm shaft the same as the Rambler?

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I got a new pitman arm -- they are actually plentiful but listed under the wrong number -- and it was exactly the same. Manual box, to be clear. Power steering pitman arms are easy to find. Manuals, there's a Mevotek number. I have it if you need it.
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Originally posted by tomj tomj wrote:

Borgeson is manufacturing NEW Saginaw steering gears.


the 1968 Rambler American appears to have a Saginaw 525 (manual gear), in both stock 24:1 and faster 16:1 ratios.
prices are not unreasonable; a Lares rebuilt from Rockauto is around $250.






I dont think that saginaw 525 will fit Americans. American has the two front bolts vertically in the same line. That shoud fit newer cars like hornets and gremlins. Just a heads up
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Originally posted by ambassador401 ambassador401 wrote:

I dont think that saginaw 525 will fit Americans. American has the two front bolts vertically in the same line. That shoud fit newer cars like hornets and gremlins. Just a heads up

Aha, thanks for the info! Water under the bridge for me, but thanks, and good for the record here.
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Tom,
What car did you put the 525 box in?  What is the pitman arm number?

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Originally posted by nickleone nickleone wrote:

Tom,
What car did you put the 525 box in?  What is the pitman arm number?

The car is a 1968 American, base model, manual everything, 199ci, 3-speed column shift. 

I never bought the new Borgeson 525 box, I bought a Lares rebuilt whatever manual from rockauto...

Here's my note on the manual pitman arm:

Mevotech MK3106 is the correct part for manual steering gear (installed, working). K3055 WRONG PART (power steering; large hole). SHOULD BE 1.08" outside diam (of splines, probably 1.00 root). Rare Parts 20393. Moog K-3106 -- not available.
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