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    Posted: Sep/25/2007 at 12:24pm
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 Any new ideas on removing the front & rear galley plugs that are not moving. Used socket type allen wrench, only got one out, the others would not move at all. Used P & N oil a few times over night, still no way. Drill out one plug and used large easy-out to get the plug moving ( yes I'm going the right direction ) broke the easy out.
Used large beaker bar to get  muscle into removing the plugs, NO GO. Any ideas out there, A little thing like this that you will spend alot of time on is kicking me in the a#*.
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Are they the stock square hole socket head pipe plugs ?
I got a 5/16 square drive socket from Snap-On that would fit them.
Always thought all stock plugs had a square hole rather than a Hex hole.
And the square hole was too small for a 3/8 ratchet / extension head
so got the 5/16 square drive from Snap-On.
 
May try heating them up with a propane torch to help
the penetrating oil to penetrate and break them loose.
Also maybe get the drive and extension in the plug drive hole
and then wrap it pretty good axially with a hammer
to put some axial shock into it to help crack it loose.
Also maybe an air impact wrench creates a hammer type shock.
 
When replacing, be careful of the depth of the front pass side plug
that's in the forward block face.  It can block the oil cross feed hole
for the #1 main and rods if it screws in too far.
 
What a bummer.  I hear ya, a small thing like pipe plugs costing days.
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Thanks Phat for the information, If the factory pipe plug are square,they must have been replaced at one time since my are  Hex pipe plugs. I will give the AXIAL shock treatment tomorrow. From what I been reading about oil control, the pass plug depth is important.
I planning on using aluminum hex pipe plugs or should stick with steel or brass ones? Thanks for the input.
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If they have been replaced it is possible someone used threadlock, try heating.
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use a torch and get them cherry red, then touch a candle to them as a penetrating oil. Make sure it is a real wax candle though. It works.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote billd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/25/2007 at 11:56pm
Originally posted by Peter Marano Peter Marano wrote:

If they have been replaced it is possible someone used threadlock, try heating.
 
Why would someone do that???
 
hey, kirkwood - GREAT TIP!
Yes, real wax and not soy candles, etc.
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Would probably stay with steel since they're less likely to round out but alum or brass would be easier to drilll out if needs be.  Steel may be better than dissimillar metals for compatable thermal expansion rates.  Not that it matters, but Au-Ve-Co sells 3/8 pipe plugs with the square drive hole if someone wanted the original style.
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 I had this problem with a Chevy. V8 once. I heated (NOT cherry red) the area right around the plugs. The casting expanded and they came out fairly easy.
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Dennis makes a good point - don't heat the plug itself. And I suppose cherry red may have been an exaggeration, too .

Let's say 'hot to the touch'.
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A compressed air can from an office store, held upside-down, will ice something really quick, if you want to cycle through a few hot-cold cycles to help.
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