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MARTINSR
AMC Addicted Joined: Sep/08/2009 Location: SF bay area Ca Status: Offline Points: 670 |
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Edited by MARTINSR - Oct/22/2017 at 4:14pm |
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1959 Rambler American daily driver. And I mean EVERY SINGLE day.
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tomj
AMC Addicted Joined: Jan/27/2010 Location: earth Status: Offline Points: 7544 |
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Brian's blasphemy is correct. Drums in good shape are fine, and you can either install larger drum set ups or hack the drums. I've done both in my 63 American. Google 'rambler hotrod drum brakes' on worldpowersystems.com ...
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1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto
1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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carnuck
AMC Addicted Joined: Mar/31/2010 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 3942 |
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I recall a lot of the brake drums being available still due to trailers using a lot of the same components. Some parts are becoming or already are obsoletum or unobtainium.
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Red Devil
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/10/2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1743 |
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You can also fit shoes that have a higher coefficient of friction and higher temperature range for more braking torque and better fade resistance.
Porterfield is a good source and also makes shoes with race compound for cars that race with drums. Cost about $100 a set for their R4-S compound. https://www.porterfield-brakes.com/categories/Brake+Shoe/Performance+Street.html Porterfield R4-S Drum parts still seem to be readily available. AMC disc parts are starting to get scarce. Not sure how long the Scarebird conversion parts will be available? A Wilwood or similar kit using calipers and rotors common to the lower levels of stock car racing may be a better choice for long term ... if you've got a local source for parts. Hope this helps,RD |
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Red20
AMC Addicted Joined: Jan/29/2013 Location: Oceanside CA Status: Offline Points: 1556 |
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The newer Scarebird kits are 90% off the shelf parts and ship with a list of part numbers to use at the parts store or online to replace any wear items. My rotors are from a 1993 Toyota Previa van, for instance. I believe calipers and pads are GM, etc. The custom, laser cut caliper brackets are not part store items, but should last forever.
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1969 Javelin SST "Screamin' Banana" - Totaled Feb 2018
1973 Hornet Sportabout X "yellajack" - 360/727/TracLoc DAILY DRIVER |
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CamJam
Moderator Group Joined: Jan/04/2014 Location: Arizona Status: Offline Points: 6549 |
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When's the last time you saw an early 90s Previa van? Seems like it could just be trading one obsolete setup for another.
I bought the disc brake setup from a '77 Gremlin to upgrade the drums on my '72 Javelin, but after driving on the drum setup for awhile I find it's actually not too bad. Mind you, I wouldn't want to go autocrossing with them. |
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'73 Javelin 360 (current project)
'72 Baja Bronze Javelin SST '69 Big Bad Orange AMX (2018 Teague Heritage Award) SOLD |
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Red20
AMC Addicted Joined: Jan/29/2013 Location: Oceanside CA Status: Offline Points: 1556 |
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Well, you got me there, LOL. |
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1969 Javelin SST "Screamin' Banana" - Totaled Feb 2018
1973 Hornet Sportabout X "yellajack" - 360/727/TracLoc DAILY DRIVER |
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jpnjim
AMC Addicted Joined: Nov/25/2007 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 2752 |
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My opinion:
I've daily driven on Drums (big 12" drums) and hope to never do that again, luckily that big heavy J4000 (Jeep Pickup) had a manual transmission so downshifting helped when something newer, lighter & with better brakes panic stopped in front of me. More opinion my 71-74 Javelins (disc ft/drum rear) never stopped as well as my 87-89 Jeeps (disc ft/drum rear). Even with new rotors/pads/drums & shoes. And those 87-89' Jeeps never stopped as well as my 98-01' Jeeps (disc ft/drum rear, w/better power booster). And absolutley nothing I've ever driven stops as well as the little Fiesta ST I drive now (2700 lbs & 4 wheel disc). Fact With all the texting and driving/texting while walking, having the shortest possible stopping distance you can get isn't a bad thing. |
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71 P-code 4spd Javelin/AMX
some Jeeps and some Fords |
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nickleone
AMC Addicted Joined: Oct/04/2008 Location: westminster co Status: Offline Points: 1441 |
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The Previa rotors are cheap enough you could by 4 and put two on the shelf.
Then when you have 200k miles on the first set you could swap them out. Same with the disc pads. Nick
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nick
401 71 Gremlin pro rally car sold 390 V8 SX/4 pro rally car sold 1962 Classic SW T5 4 wheel disc brakes |
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mramc
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/12/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3217 |
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Wilwood makes a kit . It's listed for AMXs and Javelins from 1968 to 1974 but it will work. But it is costly. Also I believe Doug Noel at American Parts Depot use to list a set up based on the 1975 and up latter AMC factory disk setup. But here again it's old parts that are starting to have scarce replacement parts. You pay your money and you make your choice. Nothing really wrong with the scare bird setup. It works but may take a little more engineering to get to fit right but then all the options available will take that to some degree. And it uses a few older parts too as noted. LRDaum
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