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BDCVG
AMC Addicted Joined: Dec/19/2007 Location: Endless Mtns. Status: Offline Points: 992 |
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In a different forum I am in some engineers with too much time made a machine that pressure tested various filters. A lot of Frams collapsed at around 70 psi and allowed oil to go around the paper filter. The Baldwins and Wix passed. They did not test Purolator. I'm pretty sure NAPA gold are made by Wix but they also passed the pressure tests.
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1970 AMX 390 5 spd full Control Freaks front and rear suspension
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69BBB3904spAMX
AMC Addicted Charter Member Joined: Jun/29/2007 Location: San Jose, CA Status: Offline Points: 2761 |
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Maybe Ferrari' V-12's don't have high oil pressure, but that is what you will see on them, in fact, they use (2) of the Orange Fram filters.
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37 Ford Tudor 60 hp V8 flathead, all original, never restored
69BBB3904spAMX 70 Camaro 1st car 74 Hornet Hatch 6 cyl floor/auto 2007,2008,2009 PT Cruisers Aluminum Deck Car Trailer |
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jayramb
AMC Nut Joined: Aug/25/2009 Location: Bloomington, MN Status: Offline Points: 487 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDpzyu0aWE
I've had top notch mechanics tell me (AMSOIL/WIX...made by AMSOIL, or NAPA). I've seen too many engines ruined by Fram. |
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Jayson Helenske
See my webiste! www.1967AMCRamblerRebel.weebly.com Current Cars: 1967 Rambler Rebel 770 290 V8 4-barrel and Paint - Marina Aqua. 1966 MARLIN 327 V8 4 barrel and Paint-Med. Cortez Aqua |
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purple72Gremlin
AMC Addicted Charter Member Joined: Jul/01/2007 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 16591 |
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I was using pf 24s, but when I use the last 2 I will go to baldwins. ( I now use baldwins on my 2 DDs now). ( not AMC DDs).
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JERSEYJOE
AMC Addicted Joined: Oct/23/2008 Location: TUG HILL NY Status: Offline Points: 1718 |
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LOTS OF GOOD INFOR HERE GENTLEMEN. BACK TO MY ORIGINAL POST I REPORTED THE FACTS AS THEY HAPPENED. IF ANYONE IS SO INCLINED I WILL GLADLY SEND YOU THE OFFENDING FILTER FOR DIAGNOSIS.
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1985 J-20 PLOW TRUCK
1977 CJ 7 360 T-18 D 300 1970 AMX ex-SCCA car SPEED COSTS MONEY HOW FAST DO YOU WANT TO GO? |
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amx2bfast
AMC Apprentice Joined: Aug/07/2013 Location: middlesex nc Status: Offline Points: 217 |
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Have personaly seen where the Frams did not have anti bleeddown valves. Seen one that had the additive plug an oil pump with 13000 miles on it. Wouldn,t put one on some ones vehicle I didn,t like
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1975 gremlin
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trewyn15
AMC Addicted Joined: Sep/21/2014 Location: Janesville, WI Status: Offline Points: 898 |
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Hmm I have Fram in most of my cars, not an issue. If it's not leaking and seals properly to the block (also not leaking) I don't really see how it could affect oil pressure all that much... unless they're clogged of course.
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2020 Ram 1500 Big Horn Night Edition
2000 Trans Am WS6 1989 Trans Am GTA 1989 Grand Prix ASC/McLaren 1983 AMC Concord DL 1966 AMC Rambler Rebel Classic |
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farna
Supporter of TheAMCForum Moderator Lost Dealership Project Joined: Jul/08/2007 Location: South Carolina Status: Offline Points: 19611 |
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Fram and several other companies had a quality control issue about 10 years ago that resulted in bad filters on the market for about a year. The filters didn't all fail, but in most high performance applications they did. Normal street driving with a car in good condition wasn't an issue, so the filters weren't recalled. The problem was at a particular plant in Mexico, so not ALL Fram filters were affected, but apparently the lower volume models (like for most AMC applications) were. May have been a few of the higher volume filters also -- there was never an official word put out. They just let the bad ones (well, let's be fair and say MARGINAL instead!) sell out. Don't know if they corrected the issue at the plant or changed sources, but the issue was fixed. Took a year or more to get the marginal ones through, and that hurt the reputation of the company for a lot of people. They sell mostly through low cost chain stores, didn't affect overall sales much.
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Frank Swygert
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trewyn15
AMC Addicted Joined: Sep/21/2014 Location: Janesville, WI Status: Offline Points: 898 |
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2020 Ram 1500 Big Horn Night Edition
2000 Trans Am WS6 1989 Trans Am GTA 1989 Grand Prix ASC/McLaren 1983 AMC Concord DL 1966 AMC Rambler Rebel Classic |
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71GldLimeJavy
AMC Fan Joined: Jul/16/2014 Location: Pa Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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I just had a fram filter cause me to loose all oil pressure, eventually changed filters, now I am at 50 PSI cold. Will never use one again.
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