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_popupControl(); Could you give me the model of that t-5 and where did you get it. How much modifications is there?
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I know I am pulling up an old thread.
I have found a complete transmission that is out of a 1968 AMC.
the part number tag is 
3195689
AS2-T10V

I understand this is a 2:23 first gear trans.

and the Main case has 
T10P-1B
date code is:
I.8.68  (I believe it is an I and not a 1)

Any ideas what the date code means?

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67 Rogue Barbados Blue 290 225HP 4 speed convertible 71K miles.
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Sept. 8th. 68>
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So to continue the theme of this discussion.....

Some of you will recall from my recent Dyno Daze2 engine build that I have a hot street 401 with a bit of a ridiculous hydraulic roller cam destined for my otherwise stockish '70 AMX (3:54 rear, close ratio T-10) which is probably going to be a "challenging" to launch. I can throw more money at the problem and switch to a 5-speed tranny (and gain the OD 5th), but would prefer to explore mods to the T-10 first, as I intend to leave the car mostly stock and it is a hobby car not a daily driver of any sort.

From reading through the thread it sounds like upgrading my T-10 to a 2:64 or 2:43 its gear is still possible by spending some money at S&K speed? Anybody done this recently and know if the upgraded T-10 will withstand the 510HP/487 lb-ft motor? Or is there just a flat out better option such as an upgraded T-5 from somebody?
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Here's another AMC 4 speed recipe setup to think outside of the box;

I have helped a few guys install a new style GM Muncie 4 speed with a 2.99:1 1st gear. The QuickTime bellhousing RM-8075 will marry an AMC V8 engine to a Muncie styled 4 speed.

These new styled 4 speeds will handle up to 700hp and my cut off is anything larger than 540CI.


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Since the QuickTime RM-8075 has a shorter depth than a stock AMC bellhousing, it will take a custom built shifter to tie everything together.

But, the 2.99:1 1st gear will really wake up your driveline when compared to the 2.23:1 or 2.64:1.


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Jody

Nothing against this as an idea but the tranny costs how much?....and it requires me to buy a $800 bell housing, mess with the driveshaft I would assume, and probably the stock mechanical clutch linkage no longer works??

While building the motor I purchased an AMC clutch & pressure plate to go with the new flywheel, this is 10-spline stuff so all that would have to be changed also.

I want to hear about T-10 solutions! Big smile
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To my knowledge the guts of the "Nodular Iron" case "Power Brute" and install them in the AMC T10 Case.
You will need your 10 spline input shaft.
You may call a performance/transmission shop or even Richmond to see if you can get the high nickel gears and associated parts for a rebuild.
If you use the higher spline input shaft and clutch to match, your transmission will take more torque.


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Trader, thanks that looks like some good info, I can certainly call them or other similar places to poke at this some more.

I get that the 26 spline input has more torque capability, but would assume it is shorter and thus requires the RM-8075 bell housing and probably some custom shifter work to get the new assembly to match the stock location. Plus the question if the stock Z-bar stuff is still workable. I don't mind swapping the clutch disc but was hoping to avoid the bellhousing and shifter monkey-motion.

Is the AMC input shaft the same as the Ford 10-spline? Looks like the same place has the Ford versions with the 2:64 first gear.

I will start poking at all this with some phone calls, maybe there is a tranny expert on the forum that can weigh in on these questions?
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