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    Posted: Mar/12/2019 at 7:17am
Hello everyone,

I recently brought home my wife's grandfathers 1968 American that has been sitting since 1993. I am tasked with getting it running for his upcoming 80th birthday. I have a few questions though. The carb was removed over a year ago for rebuild but then was replaced with an already rebuilt unit from Rock Auto. I am not sure where a few things go so I am here for assistance.

1. How does the throttle linkage get secured? There is a hole in the shaft for a cotter pin but it does not stick down far enough to do any good. 





2. Where does this spring attach to? 


3. Finally the new carb does not have this arm and spring. The threaded bit that holds it on is not on the new carb. It was cut off. Is this necessary? The carb is an Autoline form Rock Auto. 

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In the top picture a spring and washer normally go in there and the cotter pin gets put in with the hole inside the bracket, for lack of a better way of explaining it. 

Not sure on the long spring unless it has something to do with throttle return on the pedal linkage.

The short spring looks like it could be for throttle plate return making for a more positive low idle. Maybe the new one will work OK without it. 


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On the rebuilt carburetor is there a spring around the white plastic accelerator pump that is not on the original carburetor? I'm thinking these do the same thing and are just two different styles. I believe the long spring is supposed to attach to a tab on the rotating throttle arm. It is the pedal return spring.

I see you are from grand rapids, my grandmother Marge lives there!


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It looks like you are almost there in getting it to run. But after getting it going with the new carb I'd get a kit from Napa and clean up the original. Then save the new one for a spare or sell it. 
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Originally posted by First_Gear First_Gear wrote:

On the rebuilt carburetor is there a spring around the white plastic accelerator pump that is not on the original carburetor? I'm thinking these do the same thing and are just two different styles. I believe the long spring is supposed to attach to a tab on the rotating throttle arm. It is the pedal return spring.

I see you are from grand rapids, my grandmother Marge lives there!

I will take a look when I get home this evening.

No kidding? Its a great city to live in. Have you visited?
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Originally posted by vinny vinny wrote:

It looks like you are almost there in getting it to run. But after getting it going with the new carb I'd get a kit from Napa and clean up the original. Then save the new one for a spare or sell it. 

Already ordered a rebuild kit for the original carb. It will be staying with us for sure. 
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Alright still at work but another thing crossed my mind. Where does this line go? On my car there is just a piece of tape over that port....


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That vacuum line should go to the wiper motor, provided you have vacuum wipers and not electric.
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The vacuum line from the fuel pump goes to the left side of the wiper motor. The bottom port (air inlet) of the wiper motor stays open.  
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Originally posted by Fisherwerke Fisherwerke wrote:

I will take a look when I get home this evening.

No kidding? Its a great city to live in. Have you visited?

Yeah I was just there for New year's. Also note that the flat rod style fuel pump is no longer in production so don't take  it off unless you really need to. I'm guessing you could buy the round shaft one and swap the shafts if you really needed to.
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