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1971JavelinSST 
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 Topic: BorgWarner M44Posted: Aug/17/2020 at 12:23pm |
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Thank you so much. I'll let you know as soon as mechanic checks it. He just asked me to get the transmission filter and gaskets. |
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1971JavelinSST
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Posted: Aug/17/2020 at 12:07pm |
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I will pm you for a nos screen. Thanks.
I found and ordered this: ATP B-35 filter-screen/gasket. ATP website says it fits 71 Javelin w Shift Command. - Will this fit the Borg Warner M44? |
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401MATCOUPE
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Posted: Aug/15/2020 at 5:11pm |
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If you tell me exactly which bands and drums you need, I have a lot of NOS parts for Borg Warner NOS AMC issue.....I bought a AMC Zone office of obsolete stuff a while back! Just have not had time to really go through it....
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Ross K. Peterson
68X,GoPac,343,AT,52A(1stCar) 68X,GoPac,390,4sp,52A 69X,GoPac,390,4sp,64A 70X,GoPac,390,4sp,87A,8 70X,GoPac,390,4sp,BBO,8 70 Jav SST,390,AT,BSO 74MatX,401,AT,Prototype 74MatX,401,AT |
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ramblinrev
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Posted: Aug/15/2020 at 9:59am |
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Yes, contact Ross for parts. This NOS drum probably is correct, though might not be the one that's shot. Still, might not hurt to get it! |
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401MATCOUPE
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Posted: Aug/15/2020 at 5:45am |
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These trans do not have filter but rather a brass screen, most of the time they can cleaned....BUT the screens break, if you need a new screen I have NOS ones available, Just send me a PM.
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Ross K. Peterson
68X,GoPac,343,AT,52A(1stCar) 68X,GoPac,390,4sp,52A 69X,GoPac,390,4sp,64A 70X,GoPac,390,4sp,87A,8 70X,GoPac,390,4sp,BBO,8 70 Jav SST,390,AT,BSO 74MatX,401,AT,Prototype 74MatX,401,AT |
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1971JavelinSST
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Posted: Aug/15/2020 at 3:03am |
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Thanks for the info on the BW M44
Would anyone recommend a particular brand of filter and gasket set for my 71 304 automatic? - Mechanic has my car and asked me to get them. Also, should he refill it with Dexron III or IV ? Any suggestion/info would be greatly appreciated!
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farna
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Posted: Feb/25/2019 at 8:53am |
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Then he doesn't know Borg Warner transmissions as well as he thought. All the M3x and M4x are all aluminum. They were only used behind sixes and the smallest V-8 with 2V carbs only. V-8s with a 4V from the factory got the tougher M-1x series (M-11 or M-12, depending on year). But don't fret!! If he knows the M-1x series he also knows the M-3x/4x!! They were all essentially the same design, the M-3x and 4x just used the AL case and some lighter parts inside. Same gasket set applies to both, though there are a few subtle differences accounted for by having 2-3 gaskets for the same thing. That same gasket set also applies to the earlier M-8 and "M-10" as well as the early Ford trannys up to and including the FMX, which are license built Borg-Warner designs. Ford didn't deviate much from the BW design until their C-4 and C-6 came out. I mention "M-10" in quotes because I'm pretty sure that wasn't the official designation. It's used to refer to the TV cable version of the M-8 which was used in 63-66 V-8 cars. I forget the model number on those trannys, but I think it's something like M-8-x.... Don't have one on hand and haven't seen one without the screen printed label too damaged to read. The printing usually fades/dissolves from years of tranny fluid/elements exposure or attempts to clean with solvent.
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Mine is aluminum... It's pre 71 trannies that have iron centers. So I should be able to bench press that puppy when I get under it to pull the thing. It shouldn't be as far as the complete th400 with converter, starter and flexplate, that I had placed in my javelins trunk. |
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Snake Oiler
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Posted: Feb/23/2019 at 7:35am |
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Thanks to all who responded. I called a NASCAR engine builder I know, and he sent me to a guy who rebuilds transmissions. I dropped it off to him and he was surprised that the main body of the transmission was aluminum and not cast iron. So he was doubting it was an M44 as it looked like one, but he said usually the center is cast while the bell housing and stem are aluminum. Anyway he concurred that 2nd gear was shot. He quoted $600+parts to rebuild and said he would be in contact if he needed any parts that he could not find. So I might be reaching out to a few of you on this. Thanks!
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401MATCOUPE
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Posted: Feb/11/2019 at 7:33am |
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If you can get me a picture of what you need, I have a lot of parts for those trans on the shelf. Maybe a picture from the Technical Service Manual OR send me pic of the actual part via Private Message.
Ross
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Ross K. Peterson
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