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nickleone 
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 Topic: 69 AMX Lug Bolt removal?Posted: Oct/10/2018 at 11:58am |
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I removed the drum from a 62 six assembly. Knocked studs out and took the hub to a local NAPA and had it turned down to fit a Previa disc (scarebird conversion). My partner in crime found a dril bit sized for the new studs (don't remember size) and installed them. We used slotted mags with the uni-lug pattern . They are a pain to remove and install but my partner had them in the garage for about 30 years and never used them. He bought them cheap. Nick
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david0141
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Posted: Oct/09/2018 at 5:28pm |
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Well I have finally removed my lug studs. I bought a 13/16' Slugger bit from Amazon. Haven't got my new rotors yet so don't know how everything will go back together.
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Posted: Sep/14/2018 at 3:40pm |
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May be a silly question but,
has anyone had success taking a drum brake spindle hub and mating it with a slip on rotor? It may take machining of the outside of the hub and possibly the center also, but then you would have cheaper, easily replaced rotors. I would imagine only a place with a large inventory of brake parts could make this sort of match. |
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AMXFSTBK390
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Posted: Sep/14/2018 at 2:37pm |
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The factory swadged the wheel studs which reduced any knurl from the wheel stud protruding beyond the wheel hub. The wheel stud is smaller in diameter than the wheel stud holes in the rotor. AMC evidently never intended service departments to replace the rotor alone. This deduction insinuates the common repair was to replace with a new rotor with new hub already swadged in place as a package from the parts department. Wish we could turn the clock back to 1968 and walk into a AMC parts department and inquire.
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david0141
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Posted: Sep/14/2018 at 7:30am |
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Thanks again for the help. I see where everyone says that they need to be swedged or the rim will not sit flat but my existing studs are not swedged all the way around, they are only swedged in 2 spots. Maybe 1/8" on each side. I will try to upload my picture again. If it doesnt show up you can send me your em address to david0141@yahoo.com and I will forward it to you.
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AMXFSTBK390
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Posted: Sep/13/2018 at 9:52pm |
The swadge process crushed the shoulder at the base of the wheel stud. I found this out the hard way. Bought an expensive set (4) of Tq Thrust ll two-piece wheels. The wheels would not sit flush against the FDB hubs because of a terrible wheel stud swadge job. You ask a good question and I have pondered it many times. The key would be finding the right wheel stud. I have looked at Dorman'
 s extensive catalogs of wheel studs. It is like looking at NYPD's complete library of mug shots. It is amazing all the different dimensions that play into this. Here is the correct AMX wheel stud I got at Galvin's, the day his wheel stud vendor paid a visit. We had a short chat about how the correct wheel stud was not available until now. Here is a picture I took of the wheel stud. |
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Posted: Sep/13/2018 at 9:02pm |
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Thanks everyone for the info.
I think I will buy the tool from Goodson to remove. One other question. Why does it need to be swedged going back in? Won't the wheel & lug nut hold every thing in place?
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Posted: Sep/12/2018 at 10:44pm |
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couldn't you just hacksaw the stud flush, or cut above the flat, and mill it close to flush? then just drive the stub out normally. and/or drill out the chopped stub to relieve the metal swaged below flush, though if it were milled flush with the hub face that metal wouldn't have much strength left. i guess i've been lucky with my 6 cyl hubs, they use flat-headed studs and serrated press-in. are serrated press-in studs available? hard to believe the swage provides much advantage. i've never had a stud come loose, that seems like it would take an awful lot of effort/abuse to accomplish.
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Posted: Sep/12/2018 at 9:33pm |
BINGO! GOODSON Tools and Supply sells the Swedge Cutting Tool. Bit pricy, Part # ST-500 is $92.99. It is for 1/2" wheel studs. Goodson also sells several other sizes. Here is a picture from their website for a 1/2" Swedge cutting tool.
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Posted: Sep/12/2018 at 7:30pm |
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Before I installed the Control Freak IFS on my 69 AMX I had similar problems with bad disc brake hubs. I just retrofitted the disc brake assemblies from a 74 Gremlin onto the AMX. Problem solved since the discs are readily available. It is a volt on modification.
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