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purple72Gremlin
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billd
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LEt one get out of adjustment or have a bit of slop - and yes, not only pop out of gear but totall miss. And sometimes you had to stop and start over, put it in P and count, or go to what you thought was correct and double-check.
Any slop and all bets are off. Any mis-adjustment, all bets are off - lever incorrect (they tell you to throw your lever away and use their lever) and all bets are off. Been there - had one for two years and was happy to get rid of it. With a proper factory shifter that is ADJUSTED and not sloppy you won't "pop out of gear" either. For one thing the detent in the MOPAR transmissions is quite positive, but the factory shifter has a gate mechanism and holds things steady. NO regrets removing my ratchet shifter. If it was a pure strip car I may feel different but then also on an unmodified or only slightly modified transmission - I ask "why bother"? |
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THE MENACE
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I had the Mega shifter in my J10 race truck and it worked great both on the street and off road. Never a worry of popping out of gear for sure!
I can see how un-equal spacing of the shift detents on the BW could cause problems though. |
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akimmet
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Ratchet shifters are a pain to setup on transmissions they were made for, let alone one that has different shift spacing.
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purple72Gremlin
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Ken_Parkman
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Yeah it was a huge pain in the h***.
The guy had some ratchet shifter installed by a generic bolt together mechanic and it did not work. The brackets do not fit and the detent spacing is not right, so it was a dogs breakfast. He kept asking me to fix it and I kept saying no, use a stock shifter, and he finally wore me down. I kept saying you cannot pay someone to re-engineer something not designed to fit as the hours and cost is crazy. Things like that you have to do yourself, or be filthy rich. So I had to re-route the cable, fabricate a new cable bracket, pull the tranny apart (valve body had to come out), calculate a new lever radius, make a new lever, put it back together, then do it all over again cause it was just not quite right first try. In the end it seemed to work well and I hope it still does. He has not been back since I think the cost of that really peed him off. It took a lot of hours. |
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billd
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I'm still guessing.......... give me a little while...........
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6768rogues
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/03/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6241 |
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I had a B&M ratchet shifter in my Jeep. It wore out but not until it was 30 years old.
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arrugge1
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Thank you for all of the advice. I think I’m going to skip this modification and leave the stock shifter in place. 👍🏻
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tomj
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dunno about M12, but M35, the spacing between P and the other gear detents was not the same. torqueflite they're all equal-spaced, but not the little Borg Warner. you can probably guess how i figured that out.
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