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IMO about hang with production header fittment... so all you guys who are nagging about hang are overlooking the fact of fit over function, and the wider compatibly option.

Sure someone could tuck a new header and make it be to your needs, but will it work for someone else who has a different engine tranny combo in a 70 or 75 body???

Greyhound did a beautiful thread on his mod to tuck a header to fit his ride. I assume if you want the cleanest fit while tucking them away, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE MODS TO THE HEADERS. I figured by my early question, that when someone wants to have a customised fit, they would be looking for a custom kit. IMO that is the only way to make it work when so much is needed in design for clearances.

One last point... I do believe the headers WILL be a lot better than what is currently available in fit, but for heat and ease of installation, it is not going to be 100% perfect out of the box, if you expect it to fit like a tight fitting pair of jeans.

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I think it's really great seeing somebody bring a new high quality header to the market for our AMC cars. I think my question regarding RHD cars was addressed well, if we can buy them as a kit and build them with some modifications to suit our cars then that is a lot more than anybody else offers. If small car headers are in the pipeline, than that is awesome and the big car guys can have a high performance header without compromise to fit into the smaller body. Maybe a small car header that fits a big car would suit people with multiple platforms since these should last a lifetime and maybe move between cars as our needs change. 

Ground clearance is a significant issue for some of us, I know I smashed my brand new headers on the concrete the first time I drove my car out of the shed. I don't think you can realistically get them tucked up inside the frame rails but you don't want them dragging on the ground either. Some pictures of them installed in a car would definitely help,
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Make a set of 1.875+ for small body cars and you will have the back order situation from heck...
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Ha ha yes, I have a small body car in Australia and I put it back to left hand drive so that I could get off the shelf headers, just have to wait a little longer now.
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Guys,

If you read back thru this thread you'll see I've mentioned it a couple of times. Ground clearance WILL NOT be an issue. Other than compensating a little space for 3-1/2" collectors, our collectors are up as high as the floor allows. As manufacturers that have seen the garbage others sell for decades, we address ground clearance and all the others issues that have been plaguing header design for the past 50 years.

I don't have pictures presently but I will work on that with a customer that's local with a Machine and try to snap some photos. I still have his headers but will arrange to drop them off and bolt them up. Thx.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WesternRed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/16/2018 at 7:56am
Good stuff A.R, you know we like pictures of cool AMC stuff more than porn around here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dbomb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/16/2018 at 9:18am
Originally posted by harry401 harry401 wrote:


Originally posted by A.R. Headers A.R. Headers wrote:

Originally posted by jpnjim jpnjim wrote:

Thank you for following through with this!

I just need to figure out if the ballpark price for 1.75" tube/4spd Javelin headers is the ballpark I'm in LOL


Guys, I'll gladly quote you all via email, nick@americanracinheaders.com Please feel free to reach me there.

It's important that everyone understands what we're offering here is so far removed from what you're used to in terms of material quality and design. These headers are extremely labor intensive mainly due to the dog leg style port and what it takes to shape the port and create a smooth transition while using a 3/8" thick flange. As racers ourselves we understand exactly how not to hurt performance by screwing up the inlet of our headers. The AMC port design requires much more attention, (an understatement to say the least).

The second factor are the flanges. They require an additional process of machining angles across the tie bar to allow for easy spark plug socket clearance. Again due to the 3/8" thick flange but it's worth it guys. Going 3/8" eliminates the possibility of warping.

Third, the 304 S/S material used will never rust or corrode. There's no need for ceramic coating. All ARH material is 100% USA made.

Fourth, our systems come with a lifetime guarantee to the original buyer. They are built to buy, install and enjoy indefinitely.

Guys these factors drive the cost but if you do a little research about ARH, you'll see we have an excellent reputation built upon our relentless pursuit to always raise the bar and go places and do things others won't. Since their inception, ARH is the exclusive supplier of headers for all Mopar'sV8/V10 Drag Pack's, GM's COPO's and Ford's Cobra Jet cars. All built to compete with each other. I recommend looking into these cars if you aren't already familiar.

Lastly I'd like to say why we decided to offer an AMC line in the first place. I've personally been a huge Oldsmobile fan and racer for well over 30 years. I know exactly what it's like to not have options for headers or that the options available weren't worth the material they were made from. I remedied that for Olds enthusiasts long ago and for quite a while I've wanted to take care of the AMC crowd. We're half way there with large body headers. In time, I assure you, we will get the small body cars done. I'm looking forward to that.

Nick


I have to laugh at all these folks looking for special accommodations for their particular needs in a niche market to begin with. Really a BW dipstick interference problem? A ground clearance problem on a lowered racecar? A big HP engine in a small body? RH drive?etc etc etc.... We should be fortunate anyone has invested R&D $$$ in producing even a good stainless header to begin with. A 1-3/4/1-7/8 big body header is the perfect starting point to refine the product for the rest of you and if that doesn't work for you then just spend the freaking coin on custom headers and shut up
had to chuckle at Harry401 response in some ways he's right about special accomdations custom headers might be necessary for some older models weird race cars etc I'm just concerned about the current cars. I know about 4 people locally with big body cars that would like good headers that won't drag ground even on a stock height car . Whether it be entering your driveway or pulling a wheelie it sucks when your headers slam . Seems every production set you see on these cars hang down like 2 inches too far. If Nick can shorten the tubes tucking them up it would be awesome One other thing is that most all the boxshipped headers I've installed on these cars seem to be copies of others. If Nick gets his jigs right he could possibly contract out and mass produce them out of mild steel and sell a bunk load to the non racers non car show guys that just want an affordable set of long tubes.   On the RH drive issue won't it mainly just be an issue of making a different RS header ? Of course he's gotta have a RH car to fab with. I think we all can agree that AMCs are a semi small market so kudos to Nick for addressing our concerns 👍👍
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I will install a set in my 69AMX next week. Pictures to follow.


Originally posted by asifnyc asifnyc wrote:

Hi Nick,

Despite Harry not approving of my question I'd still love to get some info/pics on the fitment in a car (Javelin).  The video of the headers on the table look fantastic.  Thanks.


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You can put me down for a set of small bodied when the come out. 
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