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Samreye 
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 Topic: Starting issuePosted: Jan/25/2018 at 9:16pm |
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Right so I want to thank all of you for the details and the amount of diligence. I got her started!!! It was because I had a faulty after market key ignition that was sold to me brand new!! Replaced it with a delco remy five post and did a little under dash mod. I want to put an original one back in where it belongs. Does anyone know where to locate one? Thanks to all so much again. I do have a question on the nipple coming out between the carb and valve cover. My tsm states it for an air guard system. I don’t have any other of the bits and bobs that go with the system. Does it need to be connected for a vacuum of sorts
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farna
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Posted: Jan/12/2018 at 5:32pm |
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Yeah, could be a bad condensor. But run a jumper wire from battery + to coil + and try that first.
It really won't matter if you don't disconnect the ignition wire first. You' will still only get 12V, and running 12V back to the ignition switch won't hurt either. It's not like you would be grounding it, it would just be like two wires run parallel from the battery to the coil. |
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vinny
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Posted: Jan/12/2018 at 1:04pm |
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Agreeing with Lyle now, it very well could be a bad condenser. I had to replace one after the car had been sitting for a few years. Orange spark, lots of backfiring, missing, as well as hard to start. My daughter was getting lost of comments on the car but she really complained that she could not keep it running.
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Lyle
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Posted: Jan/12/2018 at 11:23am |
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Check your coil and condenser also. I don't know how many times I've seen a 6V coil on a 12V system or the wrong coil output for the plugs installed.
My neighbor has a 6V system and NAPA sold him a lawnmower condenser, they didn't even know condensers were application specific. Needless to say it it not run well. Once we got a correct value condenser for a straight 8 6V it runs great, lots more power and better mileage. Even with a proper part number we went to NAPA and tested 5 to get 2 within spec. Cheap make, find Bosch if you can.
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vinny
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Posted: Jan/12/2018 at 9:51am |
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http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/tOCMP/wiring/5765wiring%20diagrams/Rambler/MWire5765-349.jpg
Your wiring diagram shows that it has an ignition resistor of which I was pretty sure of. The original coil will not last too long running full battery voltage to it but should be fine to get it started as that is what it shows in the diagram. BTW when I put a 232 from a 67 without changing the coil into my car that has no resistance wire it lasted only about 2 months. What ohm reading do you get across the + - terminals of your coil? I am thinking it should be 2 as that was what the original was. I think you might have other problems like bad gas, low compression or bad timing.
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amcenthusiast
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Posted: Jan/12/2018 at 6:51am |
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Get a Chilton's Repair Manual for your car. If you can't find one for your specific model, just get one that is 'close' like this one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-67-74-Matador-Rebel-Machine-REPAIR-TUNE-UP-MANUAL-CHILTONS-SERVICE-BOOK/252823955907?hash=item3add7b69c3:g:olwAAOSwax5Y0XvO&vxp=mtr Get an AMC Technical Service Manual also... if not for your model, something like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-AMC-RAMBLER-AMERICAN-TECHNICAL-SERVICE-SHOP-REPAIR-MANUAL/111735077381?hash=item1a03edfa05:g:LVAAAOSwojRYSwwf&vxp=mtr |
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443 XRV8 Gremlin YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=2DmFOKRuzUc
XRV8 Race Parts website: http://amcramblermarlin.1colony.com/ |
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Posted: Jan/12/2018 at 2:18am |
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The coil should specify whether or not it requires a ballast resistor make sure you follow the recommendation.
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Posted: Jan/11/2018 at 9:04pm |
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Samreye
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Posted: Jan/11/2018 at 8:48pm |
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Thank you, is my theory corect then? Am I not getting enough voltage
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Posted: Jan/11/2018 at 8:43pm |
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Orange won't run
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