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Rambler Mexicano
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JUNE 2021 Update. I am sorry I couldn't post what I originally intended to at the beginning of the year. Fortunately, after a lot of time I am finally able to continue to share to my American friends more of the Mexican AMC engine engineering features. The lastest novelty in question here: The First-Generation VAM Two-Barrel Intake manifold Introduced in 1971 and discontinued in 1976, this is a STEEL unit incorporating the same regular production exhaust manifolds as all other VAM engines from 1965 and later years. The factory carburetor model used in this intake manifold was the 360 CFM Carter ABD two-barrel unit from 1971 through 1974, which was replaced by the 350 CFM Holley 2300 two-barrel unit for 1975 and 1976. This intake would be replaced by the new lighter aluminun design introduced in 1977 and dropped in 1986. Application for this intake manifold is as follows: 1.- 1971-1973 VAM Javelins (the model was dropped in 1973 in Mexico, instead of 1974 as in the United States) 2.- 1972-1976 Classic DPL (Matador sedan) 3.- 1972 Classic Brougham hardtop (Matador two-door hardtop, closest Mexican equivalent to the Rebel Machine) 4.- 1974-1976 Classic AMXs (Matador X) 5.- 1974-1976 Classic Brougham coupe (Matador Brougham coupe) 6.- 1976 VAM Pacer 7.- 1976 American Rally (Hornet X) 8.- 1976 American ECD two door (Hornet DL two door) All models in this being factory 282 six-equipped units. For the people asking me about the 1972-1976 VAM 282 Jeeps, I have to say that 282s in Jeep always carried one-barrel carburetors and intakes. It would be until 1980 that Jeeps with automatic transmissions, which were nonexistent between 1972 and 1976, would carry VAM's two-barrel intakes (the Second Generation aluminum unit). These two cylinders here belong to the early years of this intake manifold design, since they're intended for the pair of bolts that hold the sheetmetal part that holds the accelerator cable end in place. The design of the accelerator cable would be updated in later years and these two cylinders were no longer required. This is the top Front view of the Intake as it looks when attatched to the engine. This is the Rear View of the intake as it looks whn attatched to the engine. This picture shows a major update of this intake manifold's variants through the years. The two portions intended to hold in place the mounts of the power steering pump, which in 1975 appeared on the intakes' side of the engine for the first time in 1975. If you find an intake with these portions it belongs to 1975-1976 models. The 1971-1974 models had the steering pump located on the distributor's side of the engine. Thus, the intake manipold is rounded out in this corner. Made with pride at the Lerma, Estado de México VAM engine plant. The Engine Vacuum tubes at the center of the carburetor mount were used in VAM cars in this form: the right tube was the vacuum tube for the brake booster, the left tube was connected to the PCV valve on top of the engine valve cover and the smallest tube at the bottom was used for the vacuum gauge. Since this intake manifold was taken from a 1976 VAM Pacer which had no vacuum gauge, I would like to think that it was simply blocked off (unless the part comes from another VAM engine that had a vacuum gauge). Edited by Rambler Mexicano - Jun/08/2021 at 5:10pm |
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Mauricio Jordán
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Rambler Mexicano
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In around January I will have an interesting update to this topic. Stay tuned
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Mauricio Jordán
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mitchito
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On my last trip to Mexico I brought back a few intakes and 2100 carbs which I had rebuilt. I will have one or 2 for sale as I decided to keep the single barrel on my Gremlin and I had one extra before that. I will bring them to the AMO meet in St. Louis. I did have one polished and it came out really great.
As for the 4.0 being better, yes, but a pain to mount the power steering pump. No such issue with the 4.6 head
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1982 Rambler Lerma
1981 Rambler Lerma coupe 1978 American (Concord base) 1977 Gremlin 1976 Pacer X |
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Thikstik
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Agreed. Flow technology has come along way and bigger ports, valves arent always the best. At full out maybe so but not under the curve where they can hurt low end by limiting air charge velocity. Great info. Would love to just switch intake. |
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75 gremlin x, jeep 4.0 headed 258,
264H Cliff cam, intake,header. 390 holley. I want a 282 VAM motor! AC/PS/PDB. 72 AMX , 304 2bbl, 3speed, now disks...probably will sell, want an automatic /AC. |
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Rambler Mexicano
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You're right Frank, those ports are nonexistent in the engine block. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Mauricio Jordán
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farna
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Those "cooling ports" you mention are likely ports to wash out casting sand. I don't think there are matching opening on the block so water can circulate through them. Basically just the lowest part of the head water jacket, sealed by the head gasket. If there are matching openings in the block they are indeed for cooling...
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Frank Swygert
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Thank you for all of the work in writing this up Mauricio!
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Rambler Mexicano
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Head to Head, Side by Side.
VAM 282 Heads, 1982-1983 unit versus 1984-1986 unit. Spark Plugs' Side - 9 Pictures in This One 1982-1983 282 Head on Top 1984-1986 282 Head on the Bottom From Left to right, cylinders 6 to 1 on Top Head and from 1 to 6 on Bottom Head. Both have the same height, the same spark plug size and the inclination of the spark plug is also the same. Portions for the AC/Alternator and ignition coil are the same. The main difference between both heads is evident, mainly reduced to the flat top for the plastic valve cover in the 1984-1986 unit. From left to right, Cylinders 6-5-4-3 on top and 1-2-3-4 on the Bottom. From left to right, Cylinders 4-3-2-1 on top and 3-4-5-6 on the Bottom. Closer look, all spark plugs in place. From left to right, cylinders 6-5-4 on top and 1-2-3 on the bottom. Closer look, no spark plugs, more visible outlets. From left to right cylinders 3-2-1 on top and 4-5-6 on the bottom. Closer look, from left to right cylinders 6-5 on top and 1-2 on the bottom, sparks pugs on top. Closer look, from left to right cylinders 4-3 on top and 3-4 on the bottom, sparks pugs on top. Closer look, from left to right cylinders 2-1 on top and 5-6 on the bottom, sparks pugs on top. Closest look, cylinders 6 on top and 1 on the bottom. ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- - ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Both Engine Heads now both shown straight instead of one upside down. Once again, the 1982-1983 unit on top and the 1984-1986 unit on the bottom. Notice the hollows for the Alternator/AC and the distributor coil, the gap for the distributor seems to be slightly larger in the 1984-1986 head. There is some thicker metal portions near cylinders 2 and 5 on the bottom head not present on the top one. Also one of these portions in missing on the cylinder 6 corner of the bottom head. Cylinders 6 to 4 from left to right, spark plugs in place. Cylinders 4 to 1 from left to right, visible spark plug outlets. Cylinders 6 and 5 from left to right. Closer look. Cylinders 4 and 3 from left to right. Closer look. Cylinders 2 and 1 from left to right. Closer look. Cylinders 6, closest look. ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- - ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Vertical View of Both Heads 1984-1986 unit to the left and 1982-1983 to the right. Virtually exact spark plug inclination on both heads From to to bottom, Cylinders 1 to 4 on the left head and 3 to 6 on the right head. From to to bottom, Cylinders 1 to 3 on the left head and 4 to 6 on the right head, spark plugs in place. From to to bottom, Cylinders 1 to 1 on the left head and 5 to 6 on the right head, spark plugs in place. ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- - ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Valve Train 1982-1983 head on top and 1984-1986 head on the bottom Valves and Springs are the same in both heads. The only true difference here is the flat spark plugs' side for the plastic valve cover on the bottom head (metal on the top head). From left to right, cylinders 6 to 3 on both heads. It is visible that the hollows for the pushrods in the 1982-1983 head (top) are totally round while those on the 1984-1986 head (bottom) are larger. From left to right, cylinders 3 to 1 on both heads. The numbers and internal etchings of the heads are different from one model to the other. Cylinders 6 and 5 from left to right. Notice the upside down VAM engraving on the bottom head. Cylinder 6 valves, springs and rocker arm mounts. Rear view of both heads. Notice that both heads have the temperature sensor in the same spot near the farthest bolt hollow. This picture showcases a MAJOR difference between both heads. The internal bolt hollows fixing the head to the engine block are placed LOWER in the 1984-1986 head than in the 1982-1983 one. Thus, the seven bolts on this side are SHORTER than the other seven external ones. The 1982-1983 head has all 14 bolts of the same length. ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- - ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Combustion Chamber Sides 1982-1983 head on top and 1984-1986 head on the bottom. In both heads, the combustion chamber size is the same. Both valve diameters are lso shared between them. Thers is one major difference though. The 1984-1986 head (bottom) has ten round cooling ducts instead of just five like in the 1982-1983 head. Also, the spark plug seats have an additional metal portion linking them to the distributor's edge. The hollows under the spark plug next to the combustion chamber are also smaller. From left to right cylinders 1 to 4. From left to right cylinders 3 to 6. From left to right cylinders 1 to 2. From left to right cylinders 3 to 4. From left to right cylinders 5 to 6. ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- - ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Ports' Side NOTICE: Unlike al previous pictures, in this section the head on top is actually the 1984-1986 one. The on in the bottom is the 1982-1983 one. The intake ports on both heads are exactly the same. However, the exhaut ports are another story. The exhaust ports on the 1984-1986 head have the same width as on the 1982-1983 one, BUT they are TALLER, and thus larger. The 1984-1986 does have a nigher exhaust capacity. Exhaust port 1 and Intake ports 1 and 2. Intake ports 2 and 3 plus exhaust port 2. Intake ports 4 and 5 plus exhaust port 5. Intake ports 5 and 6 plus exhuast port 6. Exhaust ports 3 and 4. 1982-1983 Intake ports for cylinders 1 and 2. 1984-1986 Intake ports for cylinders 1 and 2. |
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Mauricio Jordán
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Rambler Mexicano
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Everyone saw the pictures of my original 1981 282 head.
Now I was finally able to to take down the head in my car and take an extensive high quality photo session with my professional camera due to the faded out lens on my cell phone. This head is a 1984-1986 design used in VAM Jeeps. It is virtually the same as the 1982-1983 heads, the only diference being the valve cover, metal in the 1982-1983 head and plastic in the 1984-1986 one. Valve size and spark plug size are the same. This one seems to be the same as the one I posted last year in this topic. Full view of all ports, intake and exhaust. Intake ports, cylinders 1 and 2. Intake port, cylinder 3. Intake port, cylinder 4. Intake ports, cylinders 5 and 6. Exhaust port, cylinder 1. Exhaust port, cylinder 2. Exhausts ports, cylinders 3 and 4. Exhaust port, cylinder 5. Exhaust port, cylinder 6. Top of the head: valve ends and springs, rocker mounts, ports still visible. Top of the head again, ports no longer visible. The seven internal bolt hollows and pushrod hollows more visible. Water connection hollow. Water connection hollow, with flash. Bottom side, all six combustion chambers with the valves in place. Combustion chambers, cylinders 1 and 2. Combustion chambers, cylinders 3 and 4. Combustion chambers, cylinders 5 and 6. Combustion chambers, cylinders 1, 2, and 3. Combustion chambers, cylinders 4, 5, and 6. |
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Mauricio Jordán
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farna
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