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    Posted: Nov/29/2008 at 10:56am
Ok, so I got my carburetor adjusted to where I think it's supposed to be (idle mixture screw was out SIX turns, and ran extremely rich!) and it runs great. However, at idle, it starts to get rough and idle crappily. It doesn't stall, but seems to be on the virge to. I am wanting to check the points and dwell, but I have no clue how to check them. I come from a background of GM DIS ignition systems, and never had to adjust points. Please help. I have the Delco distributor.

Point gap is supposed to be .016 and dwell is supposed to be 33*.

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Point gap is checked when the rubbing block of the point set is on the highest point of one of the 6 lobes. You're looking for the gap between the 2 contacts.
 You can rotate the engine by tapping the starter to get it close.
You can also tap the starter from under the hood. If an auto, then in park (manual in neutral).
On the solenoid, you can momentarily touch 2 contacts with the screwdriver to do this. The contacts would be the large cable post from the battery + and the small screw post just
above.
If you're just to the left of the lobe, you can turn the rotor a slight amount against the advance springs to get it to the top. If you just lightly loosen the 2 screws holding the point set down, the side closest to the block can be pivoted inward or outward.


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  If your going to run points it's a good idea to get a dwell meter. E-bay usually has some cheap ones. With a dwell meter you can verify your base setting on the point gap.
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X2 on checking dwell -- that's what allows the coil to charge for the next spark.  All the points do is break contact to fire the spark, so dwell is more important than points gap.
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yupp.. Dwell angle is far more important. I snagged a cheap dwell meter from a thrift shop for $3 not really expecting much, but when I compared readings with my dads good craftsman Dwell Tach, it was the same..
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The rough idle may not be ignition related. When the engine is running rough, spray some WD-40 (or other light oil) around the intake manifold by the head. If the idle speed picks up, you have a leaking intake manifold gasket. This is a very common problem and it drove me nuts on my 68 American until I found out about the TSB issued to fix the problem. Take a look at http://www.mattsoldcars.com/RestoreAmerican/loose_intake.shtml for information on how to fix it.
 
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