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amxjavelin
AMC Apprentice Joined: Apr/27/2013 Location: Pa. Status: Offline Points: 40 |
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Posted: Jun/16/2013 at 10:36pm |
I have a mig welder Hobart 140 - $459 and gas holding tank - $279
perfict size for what you have here. 110 volt. welds up to 5/16" thick steel I also have body parts for the 70. Battery inner fender panel. frame rail. and lower rad. support. |
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javjav
AMC Addicted Joined: Mar/06/2008 Location: Richfield, WI Status: Offline Points: 703 |
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If you need any sheetmetal or frame pieces, let me know. We are chopping up a 1974 and will have a small pile of usable pieces.
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PlazinJavelin
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Welcome to the battery tray/radiator support club. That's a good bit of work ahead of you but do-able. I started out a complete mig welding newbie and now making my own parts. Here's what the same part of my car looks like atm. And a picture of the crossmember I just finished. If you can't find a replacement crossmember, maybe I can help you figure out how to make your own. |
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brownspirit
AMC Addicted Joined: Mar/07/2009 Location: Georgetown, MA Status: Offline Points: 1020 |
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As a side note, after having a welder in the garage for a while you will wonder how you lived without one. They are so useful, honestly if your rebuilding any old car they are invaluable tools. In a car craft magazine a while back they claimed there is 3 categories all car guys fall into, one is guys without welders, guys with welders, and guys with welders that know how to use them... its true. Good luck, Andy
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Teamamc
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I can cut the frame part from the parts car I have and I beleive I have a used lower rad support here as well.
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FuzzFace2
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/05/2007 Location: Angier, N.C. Status: Offline Points: 10356 |
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Wantajav has a point on going new over used but if you know someone that has one that can help you check out the used one before you buy will help. All 110v will be light duty cly. But is more than enough for anything needed for a home garage. I do have to say I bought 2 Lincolns new, first was stolen that I bought @ HD, 2nd one was bought @ local welding store where I buy all my supplies. Lincoln 135 welder
Speed Glass helmet
Is this your picture or mine.......Oh it mine ;)
This Eastwood kit looks like a pretty good deal http://www.eastwood.com/mig-135-welder-cart-helmet-kit.html
Even us old times get in a little over or heads at times. We just step back for a bit, can be a long bit, ask others how they may go about getting the job done and take all that information and use what will work best for you.
Dave ---- Edited by FuzzFace2 - Apr/29/2013 at 10:10pm |
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75 Gremlin X v8 for sale 70 Javelin 360/auto drag car 70 Javelin 360/T5 Street car |
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walkergetx
AMC Apprentice Joined: Oct/31/2012 Location: Houston, TX Status: Offline Points: 129 |
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I get the Eastwood catalog. I imagine their mig is made by one of the big three. I've just been told Miller, Lincoln or Hobart and no others. I might try it. That sounds like my kind of investment. I did like the Miller Autoset, but I can do a lot of learning for $500. Thanks.
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RedX
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I've got a Eastwood MIG 135 welder and really like it. Runs on 110, so you can use it anywhere. It's available with a kit that includes a cart and an auto-darkening helmet which I recommend. Very easy to weld with and includes a guide to set up the welder for the metal thickness. My grandmother could weld with it. I was a little surprised at the cost of the gas but wouldn't want to go without it. Will run around $450 plus shipping and the gas. eastwood.com or 800-345-1178 for a catalog. You need this catalog as they have everything you might need for restoring an old car body
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walkergetx
AMC Apprentice Joined: Oct/31/2012 Location: Houston, TX Status: Offline Points: 129 |
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We are on the south side of Houston, Tx
I have been thinking of buying a welder, but am pretty clueless. I am thinking a Miller 140 or similar would be the right size, but I am afraid of dropping almost a grand on something than will not get used much. I also have no idea where to get the gas bottle from or where to get it filled. I suppose I could find a welding shop somewhere, but this all sounds like I'm getting over my head and fast. Edited by walkergetx - Apr/29/2013 at 6:41pm |
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wantajav
AMC Addicted Joined: Sep/04/2009 Location: PA Status: Offline Points: 1150 |
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Actually - Dave has a different viewpoint but I agree with all his points. PLUS father-son project great for the learning (I learned stick welding when dear Papa decided to make all our railings around the house from bar stock/steel channel. Not much fun working under his iron hand (pun alert) I must say, but I could chip sl*g off a weld with the best of them! by the conclusion of that project)
only thing about a 110V Craigslist special is: low duty cycle probably doesn't work perfectly you won't know if it is you or the machine frustration reduced fun factor for the project If you must go MIG, I say get a new one even a Horrible Fright model with a top quality wire not their dental floss wire. Thing is: panel bonding is much more than "gluing" which sounds like making a birdhouse -clean /prepped adhesive areas -use set screws to squeeze the bond to the correct thickness, IIRC around 20 microns which are the diameter of small beads in the glue, this ensures the proper bond strength. -you do the first two things listed above, and a proper panel bond is far stronger and more durable than MIG esp non-gas MIG. Which is why OEM's have gone to it.If Javvy's were still being made in 2013 I guarantee you AMC would be bonding those huge roof panels not spot weld/lead/chewing gum The $500-1000 bucks you'll have in a gas MIG set up/wire/helmet/gloves can be used for other parts of the build. Panel bond : 1,000,000 wrecked BMW's and minivans can't be wrong! Mike
Edited by wantajav - Apr/29/2013 at 6:30pm |
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