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    Posted: Apr/07/2013 at 3:09pm
Wow! Thank you everyone for your input! I am located in ft worth Texas........I really hope it's not a steering column I need, and is just a simple fix. Any body know of anyone in ft worth I can take it to?
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Welcome to the forum. I dont think any one said this but you sould pick up a TSM for the car. It will tell / show how any thing on the car comes apart and goes back together again.
 
It sounds like person #1 did not know what he was doing and he broke it and either gave up or owner pulled it out of his hands so more damage would be done.
 
It was given to person #2, maybe in parts, to fix. Now because it might of been in parts and this is not something a person does every day and did not have the TSM he may have winged it and did not get it just right. As others have said it looks as if something is not seated right or the top bearing is busted.
I would think if person #2 had the TSM he would get it right ro see what else is broken so it will be right.
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I've been looking at the pix a little more carefuly and it looks like he took the upper shell case off the column or at the very least, removed the screws that hold it down. It's possible the locking pin, gears are out of sync. so the outer case is not seating properly. It's still not a dificult fix, it's more like fitting puzzle pieces together correctly.
I hope your mechanic is a family member or the back yard type mechanic because there is no excuse for an experienced, well paid, mechanic to make these types of mistakes and then claim you need a new column to replace his lack of ability. These columns are not rocket science and an experienced mechanic can't use the excuse that they only know GM's and don't know very much anbout AMC because these columns are GM supplied parts. The only thing that's different between the GM and the AMC column is the length of the main shaft. 100% of the internals are GM!
 
 
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I agree, looks like someone didn't know how to install the lock plate correctly or maybe he didn't seat the turn signal switch correctly before he screwed it back down (looks like the signal arm is touching the outside housing). What are the extra parts that didn't get installed when he put it back together? How far down into the column did he take things apart?
 
In my opinion, the probelm is probably an easy fix, just need the right column experience. Take it back apart (or at least loosen things), make sure that everything is properly seated, and find out where the "extra parts" go.  If you can get someone that knows how to figure it out, let me know if you need any parts for it.


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http://theamcforum.com/forum/tilt-column-rebuild_topic32612_page1.html?KW=tilt+column
This is a lot of info on a tilt column, but the area of the turn signal and tumbler assembly is very similar. 
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after you take the steering wheel off there is a lock plate that keeps the wheel from turnig with the ignition off. Under said lock plate is a spring that loads against a bearing to keep every thing tight. My guess is that bearing was damaged or the lock plate is not installed correctly. Anything in that area of column is the same as similar vintage GM columns except for the outer cover.
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  I can't tell the exact problem just from the photo.  Looks like the upper bearing in out of place,  or bad.  Does it turn smoothly,  or appears to have roughness,  or catches when you turn nthe wheel.   I've had plenty of GM columns apart.
 
  I got a 70 Hornet Auto column I took off my 70.  I check what shape it's in.
 
  What's your location ?
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I have only pulled a steering column apart using a manual. I do not know what is going on. But I do have a steering column in my stash that is not doing me any good.  I don't remember what it is but if some one has a clue how to deal with this and needs a column I have one. And I can go look it up.

Also, to the best of my knowledge, AMC used GM steering columns.  In general chasing parts over the years if I look for a GM column and take note of the position of the hazard warning switch in general the GM column found is going to have the same parts in it if they both have the same location for the hazard warning switch.  Also I think that the column will be found in a GM car that is a year or two older than the AMC car you are looking for parts for.
At least that has been my experience.
Also my rumor mill sources indicated that a stolen corvette could be repaired inexpensively by purchasing an AMC steering column, the collapsible versions and collapsing it slightly and then installing it.
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No problem !Smile
Here are the pics.
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Ahhh ok got it! I sent you the,pix thanks again!
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