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Are you using the stock z bar and brackets for the 5 speed 
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I think the only thing stock on his cars are maybe the keys but that's a maybe.LOL
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Originally posted by sasyamx sasyamx wrote:

Are you using the stock z bar and brackets for the 5 speed 
 
Yes it does have the stock Z bar and brackets!
 
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Are those d104 or d103 headers
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Originally posted by sasyamx sasyamx wrote:

Are those d104 or d103 headers
 
I got the #D103R, 1 3/4". I got the uncoated headers because I knew I was going to be changing the collector flanges to use a conical seal and welding on an O2 sensor provision. I'll have them ceramic coated after I finish welding on them.
 
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Originally posted by Red Devil Red Devil wrote:

Looks good.   Do you know the minimum spacing on the inside by the pan and is it the same left and right, i.e. will they clear a wide T-sump pan?  I've got the Hooker 7103 (1 7/8") and the one tube on driver's side barely clears the sump on an Armando pan (12" wide sump).   Also, if you put a straight edge across the bottom of the collectors, what is the distance to the bottom of the frame rails?

Thanks, RD.
 
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I only have the one header in the car right now, but they have 3 3/4" between the pan and header on the left side, and about 2 1/2" on the right side. The bottom of the header tubes sit 1" lower than the bottom of the frame rails. It looks like a 12" sump would be fine with these headers IMO.
 
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Good info.   Thanks for measurements! 
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Originally posted by Red Devil Red Devil wrote:

Originally posted by THE MENACE THE MENACE wrote:

Originally posted by Red Devil Red Devil wrote:

Looks good.   Do you know the minimum spacing on the inside by the pan and is it the same left and right, i.e. will they clear a wide T-sump pan?  I've got the Hooker 7103 (1 7/8") and the one tube on driver's side barely clears the sump on an Armando pan (12" wide sump).   Also, if you put a straight edge across the bottom of the collectors, what is the distance to the bottom of the frame rails?

Thanks, RD.
 
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I only have the one header in the car right now, but they have 3 3/4" between the pan and header on the left side, and about 2 1/2" on the right side. The bottom of the header tubes sit 1" lower than the bottom of the frame rails. It looks like a 12" sump would be fine with these headers IMO.
 
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Good info.   Thanks for measurements! 
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You are welcome! 
To add to that, last night I reinstalled the pass side header and it sits about 1 3/8" lower than the bottom of the frame rail at it's lowest point.
 
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I thought the d103 was for a auto only and the 104 was for 4 speeds, thats good the 103 fit the stick 
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You are welcome! 
To add to that, last night I reinstalled the pass side header and it sits about 1 3/8" lower than the bottom of the frame rail at it's lowest point.
  Dennis
 
Those D103 sound like a good option for a lowered car.   For comparison, checked the Hooker 7103 on my '74 Javelin (1 7/8" tubes, 3 1/2" collector) and got 2 3/4" on driver's side and 3 1/4" on passenger's side from frame rail to bottom of collector tube. 
Thanks, RD.
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Originally posted by sasyamx sasyamx wrote:

I thought the d103 was for a auto only and the 104 was for 4 speeds, thats good the 103 fit the stick 
 
THe D103's are 1 3/4  w/3" collectors.  the D104's are 1 7/8 w/ 3 1/2 collectors.  I could see where depending on the trans one would fit better than the other.   I had to "massage" the D103's to fit with a 727.
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