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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 69 ambassador 390 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/14/2011 at 3:29pm
I can get that for cheap.  Full nitro with a 350 shot.  Should last till 60ft or so.  Would make some cool pictures.  Lets use a chevy though.
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Pictures or this tread is useless.
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"...but the internals are weak. The crank can't handle 700hp safely..."

I LOL'd at that one.  A stock crank not being able to handle 700 hp safely = not safe I guess.  This guy really reminds me of my stupid friends who thinks he knows a lot about AMC...but at least my friend has some respect.
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Rodney Dangerfeild never got any respect but he still died a rich man.Wink
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So is anyone going to post any official dyno numbers of an amc with 360 getting 450+ hp to the wheels?
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AMC design of course Mopar did some work, always wanted to watch this motor work.

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http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/engine/154_0911_jeep_insane_inline_ii/index.html
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http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/engine/154_1001_insane_inline_ii_part_2/index.html

but i thought most of the ford block where known for splitting in 2 around 600hp, altho this is factory blocks, and the AMC blocks had a higher nickel content the most blocks that i know of plus they already came with forged parts(390 and 401).. come on. i think its gonna cost just as much cash to put a ford, Chevy, dodge, block in there then it would be an AMC, plus you'll get trash talk from both sides if you cross breed your horses.

But its your car do what you like, just cause someone doesn't support it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gremlinamc1975 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/14/2011 at 6:28pm
Originally posted by Zathien666 Zathien666 wrote:

So is anyone going to post any official dyno numbers of an amc with 360 getting 450+ hp to the wheels?


Nope just are 6 cylinders sorry not are v8's yet, imagine if we had used 2 more cylinders LOL


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zathien666 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/14/2011 at 7:12pm
So?????? What are you trying to say? An inline 6 is a completely different and stronger design that's why the diesel industry uses them. Don't know why you wasted your time........so...... Yah...... Still no 360.... No dyno..... No 450hp to the wheels. There is alot of talk tho I'll give you guys that no doubt. Oh and all engines back then had high nickel content up until about 72. There was nickel in engine blocks even in 84. Aaaaaaaannnnnd as far as a sbf splitting your right 302's don't get much higher than 550-600hp. But that's a v8. As for a 351w they go much higher in hp than 600 hp and that's to the wheels.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DavyKrawkt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/14/2011 at 7:19pm
I am new to all this AMC information and just recently picked up a 73 AMX Javelin with a 401......
I usually work with Dodges and Fords.......
This has been quite a heated thread. I have done some research on AMC motors,etc.... and have found some
interesting facts........it seems the AMC dogleg head design is one of the most efficient and power producing ever made...
They developed free flowing cast iron exhaust manifolds...and high performance cast iron intakes...they also had cowl induction on their early performance cars as well as AMXs and Javelins.....and had a Group 19 list for the performance minded...granted the 20 has shortcomings.....but it can be upgraded......
If Chevy is the bomb...why did Javelin kick their rump 2 yrs running in the Trans Am racing along with the other big
companies??  and why do Chevy and Ford need to make 4 bolt mains to hold their engines together..when AMCs
have a 2 bolt main that holds up great..even at very high hp output.....I'm sure some things I put down may not be 100 percent accurate....since i'm new to AMC, so i will probably get my hands slapped.....
But i have fallen in love with the AMCs........so there!!!!!!
In response to the guy building the Pinto....find an old Ford Edsel......they came with a 9in Nodular Iron rear end...
You'll know it...because it will have a N welded on the side of the 3rd member......
I put one in my 67 Barracuda with a built 383 Commando engine that dyno at over 550hp and it was a bolt in swap..and could not even come close to breaking it.
After i finish my 73 Javelin..i will get back to work on my 77 Pinto Panel....it will have a 351 Windsor Stroker.. a built AOD tranny and a 8.8 Explorer rear end..most came with a 3.73 posi..disc brakes and complete sway bar setup..

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What goes around.....comes around.......
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote purple72Gremlin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/14/2011 at 7:23pm
Originally posted by tsanchez tsanchez wrote:

Those are not facts, they are your uninformed opinions.
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