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    Posted: Mar/16/2010 at 4:22pm
Okay,
 
Any of you AMC Pack Rats have any spare Spindles laying around to take some measurements??
 
If you do, let me know what it's from, and if it's a drum or disc spindle.
 
My main concern for right now is the measurement marked  "M"
 
See below:
 
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I measured an "M" distance of 3.12" from bearing shoulder to bearing shoulder.  This was a disc spindle from a 79 Concord.  I think you could use the stock bracket that the bendix caliper mount bolts to and make an adapter to fit a lug-mount Wilwood caliper fairly easily.  Hope this helps, RD.

 
 
  


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This was the original:
 
 
And this was the Bendix caliper bracket and 1/2" thk. adapter that sandwiches between the spindle and steering knuckle:
 


Edited by Red Devil - Mar/16/2010 at 6:56pm
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Good News:
 
I will be taking my car over next week probably to Wilwood to have my original Kelsey Hayes brake system "Digitized" so they can see about maybe putting a kit together.
 
I still need information and measurements on as many spindles as I can find including Pre '70 suspension systems.
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Getting a list of all of them may run into quite the project. For some reason, I compiled a list of part numbers for 67 and 68 and there are 5 different spindles used for those years. Here is the list I put together:

Years Models          Application                            Part #
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1967 01               six cylinder                           317-3440
1967 15, 16, 17, 19   six cylinder standard duty drum brakes
1967 01, 10           V8, drum brakes                        317-3441
1967 18               six cylinder, drum brakes
1967 50, 80           drum brakes
1967-8 01             V8, disk brakes                        317-7129
1967-8 10, 80         disk brakes
1967 50               disk brakes
1968 70  V8,          disk brakes
1968 01, 70           six cylinder                           319-1581
1968 15, 17, 19       six cylinder, drum brakes
1968 01, 10           V8, drum brakes                        319-1582
1968 18,              six cylinder, drum brakes
1968  70, 80          V8, drum brakes
1967 15, 16, 17, 19   six cylinder, heavy duty drum*         317-3441
1968 15, 18, 19       six cylinder, heavy duty drum*         319-1582
 
* To identify six cylinder heavy duty drum brakes, measure the length of the spindle bolts. Normal duty brakes have spindle bolts that are 2-1/8" and 3-1/4", heavy duty are 2-1/2" and 3-5/8".
 
I don't have any measurements for any of these but hopefully it will help compiling the list.
 
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Sorry Kermit. Not looking for Part Numbers. I HAVE all kinds of part numbers.
 
What's most important right now is the distance between the inner and outer wheel bearings and how many spindles are the same in that regard. I think Red Devil came up with about 3.15 inches on a '79 Concord spindle and I think that's in the Ball Park of where we need to be.
 
So ANYBODY  that has a disc or drum spindle, older or newer suspension, PLEASE take some measurments!  See Below:
 
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Actually, 3.12" ... and double-checked and that is about the limit with the spindle I measured and still be able to get the washer, nut, lock and cotter key in.  Hope this helps, RD.

Edited by Red Devil - Mar/17/2010 at 10:34pm
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72 drum spindle M=3.073 with bearing installed.

74 KH disc spindle M= 2.886 w/ smaller bearing installed and measured to flange. I can't find lower bearing that fits this larger diameter spindle.
 
Unknown loose drum spindle, M= 2.969 with both bearings installed.
 
Note that these measurements are without the hub installed which will probably increase M slightly with bearing preload. Both my drum spindles have a 1.25 rear bearing diameter and a .750 front bearing diameter. The KH disc takes set 2 and set 6 bearings with a 1.375 rear and .865 front bearing diameter. These measurements are at the bearing mounting locations on the shaft.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Javelin_GT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/17/2010 at 8:45pm
Not trying to high jack your thread but here are my spindles that I had made from a stock car GN spindle.
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Now those are spindles!! Thumbs Up 
 
Kinda makes you question the strength of the stock spindle?
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