TheAMCForum.com Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > The Garage > Suspension, Steering, Brakes & Wheels
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Help! Calling All Spindles!!
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Click for TheAMCForum Rules / Click for PDF version of Forum Rules
Your donations help keep this valuable resource free and growing. Thank you.

Help! Calling All Spindles!!

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 5>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
farna View Drop Down
Supporter of TheAMCForum
Supporter of TheAMCForum
Avatar
Moderator Lost Dealership Project

Joined: Jul/08/2007
Location: South Carolina
Status: Offline
Points: 19676
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote farna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Help! Calling All Spindles!!
    Posted: Apr/07/2010 at 7:57pm
An Aerospace kit is better priced than that one! Part of the reason for the big price tag is the billet AMC hub though. Aerospace makes a billet hub too as far as I remember... or they may have found a hub that fits the AMC spindle and made up any difference with the caliper mount (but I don't think so!).  There are some guys in one of the Texas AMC clubs running Mustang II spindles, but the offset of the rotor is different and they had to make spacers or custom brackets (don't recall which) to mount the calipers. I don't recall any details, but I think it's the small bearing spindle (drum brake/79-83 disc) that the MII bearings work on. I don't recall if a spacer or anything like that was needed on the spindle. 
Frank Swygert
Back to Top
TorqueyAMX View Drop Down
AMC Addicted
AMC Addicted


Joined: Dec/16/2008
Location: Simi Valley CA
Status: Offline
Points: 1139
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TorqueyAMX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/07/2010 at 7:17pm
Originally posted by 6t8amxetc 6t8amxetc wrote:


 
That's what we are trying to take care of as far as cost factor. I think my car will be going over to Wilwood next week for prototyping.


That is great! I am awaiting the results. Sure wish I could get my car built by the prototype process some of you lucky individuals are participating in! LOL!
[/QUOTE]
 
I'm really not looking to get brakes out of it. My friend works at Wilwood and just trying to get some kits made.
 
I have a feeling the other guy heard about my post and is trying to make hay while the sun shines!!
Back to Top
6t8amxetc View Drop Down
AMC Addicted
AMC Addicted
Avatar

Joined: Mar/11/2008
Location: Washington State
Status: Offline
Points: 631
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 6t8amxetc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/07/2010 at 6:53pm

 
That's what we are trying to take care of as far as cost factor. I think my car will be going over to Wilwood next week for prototyping.
[/QUOTE]

That is great! I am awaiting the results. Sure wish I could get my car built by the prototype process some of you lucky individuals are participating in! LOL!
Back to Top
poormansMACHINE View Drop Down
AMC Addicted
AMC Addicted
Avatar
Charter Member

Joined: Jun/28/2007
Location: Shoemaker-Levy9
Status: Offline
Points: 12302
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote poormansMACHINE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/07/2010 at 6:45pm
For that much I would insist on brake lines, not break lines.
Back to Top
TorqueyAMX View Drop Down
AMC Addicted
AMC Addicted


Joined: Dec/16/2008
Location: Simi Valley CA
Status: Offline
Points: 1139
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TorqueyAMX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/07/2010 at 6:32pm
Originally posted by 6t8amxetc 6t8amxetc wrote:

I sure hope Wilwood's kit is more reasonably priced than this one! That is a bunch of $$$ for a front only kit!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160420904019&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
 
That's what we are trying to take care of as far as cost factor. I think my car will be going over to Wilwood next week for prototyping.
Back to Top
6t8amxetc View Drop Down
AMC Addicted
AMC Addicted
Avatar

Joined: Mar/11/2008
Location: Washington State
Status: Offline
Points: 631
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 6t8amxetc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/07/2010 at 6:20pm
I sure hope Wilwood's kit is more reasonably priced than this one! That is a bunch of $$$ for a front only kit!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160420904019&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
Back to Top
farna View Drop Down
Supporter of TheAMCForum
Supporter of TheAMCForum
Avatar
Moderator Lost Dealership Project

Joined: Jul/08/2007
Location: South Carolina
Status: Offline
Points: 19676
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote farna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/02/2010 at 10:05am
Needafasteramx is correct -- distance "M" is the same depending on the bearing set used. There were two bearing sets -- for all practical purposes "small" (A2/A6) and "large"(A16/A17). ALL AMCs use one of those two bearing sets -- period.

All drum and the 65-70 Bendix discs used the small bearing set. I don't recall about the K-H discs, but the 75-76 (through 78 for Matador) "Big Bendix" 3.1" piston disc brakes used the big bearing set. Oh yeah, 77-78 small cars used the big bearings with the small Bendix 2.6" calipers -- those are odd balls! 79-83 small cars use the small spindle.

There is a difference in the base height of the spindles. Richard has it backwards -- the disc spindles are thicker than drum. Has to do with the offset of the caliper and clearing the steering knuckle, not the addition of the caliper mounting bracket (which would be the logical conclusion!).

There are several base heights used over the years to change the offset of the rotor and track of the front end. Too many minor changes there to document. Part numbers don't help -- sometimes there is just a change of part number for no apparent reason, probably just to streamline the part number system on occasion.

TomJ did some research a while back. Though it's a bit inconclusive, it does provide a general overview. See http://wps.com/AMC/spindles.html
Frank Swygert
Back to Top
prostreetamx View Drop Down
AMC Addicted
AMC Addicted
Avatar

Joined: Jul/15/2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Status: Offline
Points: 1532
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote prostreetamx Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/28/2010 at 8:49pm
The early drum spindles I have are 1.265" thick while the disc spindle I have is .90" thick. I would think a caliper bracket should be at least 3/8" thick for strength but a better grade of steel could be thinner. I already posted the M dimension on page one for these spindles. I also found a few more loose bearings and I do have a loose KH disc along with a few loose drum hubs that I already removed the drum from.

Edited by prostreetamx - Mar/28/2010 at 8:51pm
Richard Payne

Las Vegas,NV

72 5.7 Hemi Javelin

77 Prostreet 401/727 AMX,

[/URL]
Back to Top
TorqueyAMX View Drop Down
AMC Addicted
AMC Addicted


Joined: Dec/16/2008
Location: Simi Valley CA
Status: Offline
Points: 1139
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TorqueyAMX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/28/2010 at 8:15pm
Originally posted by FuzzFace2 FuzzFace2 wrote:

I am thinking the mounting pads are all the same thickness as I think they all use the same bolts. I do have a set of drum & 4 piston spindles in storage attached to the knuckles along with the rotors/drums still attached. Would take time to dig them out and pull apart for measurements if needed.

 

See we have 2 of them so far and it will always be the one we need to use is not the one we have! I say when they offer a “kit” and that kit uses 1 of the AMC spindles they should also offer one just in case as this is what the down fall seams to be with any “kit” for AMC.

Once we get measurements from a drum spindle we will then know if any of them might work with a Wilwood hub & hat.

Dave ----
 
I believe the mounting pads between drum and disc brakes are different and maybe thicker on the drum spindles. This is what I'm trying to find out.
 
So FuzzFace, if you have some drum spindles, measure the "M" distance AND the mounting pad thickness.
 
Thanks.
Back to Top
FuzzFace2 View Drop Down
AMC Addicted
AMC Addicted
Avatar

Joined: Jul/05/2007
Location: Angier, N.C.
Status: Offline
Points: 10356
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FuzzFace2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/28/2010 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by prostreetamx prostreetamx wrote:

The drum spindle mounting surface is thicker since they don't need the caliper mounting bracket sandwiched between the suspoension and spindle. The McKintire kit has you sending in your drum spindles to have them machined thinner or adding the caliper mounting bracket would increase your front track width.
By how much a 1/4" or 1/2" at most on each side? 
Now you got me wondering on them going to see if I can dig them out.
Dave ----
TSM = Technical Service Manual

75 Gremlin X v8 for sale
70 Javelin 360/auto drag car
70 Javelin 360/T5 Street car
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 5>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2019 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.109 seconds.
All content of this site Copyright © 2018 TheAMCForum unless otherwise noted, all rights reserved.
PROBLEMS LOGGING IN or REGISTERING:
If you have problems logging in or registering, then please contact a Moderator or