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Thikstik
AMC Addicted Joined: Mar/20/2008 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 1327 |
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The unbalanced pplate would have been yanking around the input shaft on a different place every gear change. Did they say how much it was off?
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75 gremlin x, jeep 4.0 headed 258,
264H Cliff cam, intake,header. 390 holley. I want a 282 VAM motor! AC/PS/PDB. 72 AMX , 304 2bbl, 3speed, now disks...probably will sell, want an automatic /AC. |
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nosigma
AMC Apprentice Joined: Dec/30/2007 Location: McLean Va Status: Offline Points: 200 |
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It was A LOT. When the PP came back it had a 3" long piece of 1/4 steel welded to one side. Its been a while but it was something like 4 0z. Not anywhere close to the half a gram that the rod ends, rods pistons were set up too. I'm not comfortable with the PP problem because it ran smooth until the over rev but no parts were missing from the PP. The pilot bushing makes sense, the whole thing turned to dust except for the steel outer sleeve.
Used another shop to balance this motor. Sending the centerforce PP and clutch in to be checked for balance. John Edited by nosigma - Nov/28/2011 at 9:44pm |
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Thikstik
AMC Addicted Joined: Mar/20/2008 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 1327 |
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That is strange, like, where did the metal go..if nowhere, then why is it off balance. So the chinese pp was balanced using that 1/4 inch steel?
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75 gremlin x, jeep 4.0 headed 258,
264H Cliff cam, intake,header. 390 holley. I want a 282 VAM motor! AC/PS/PDB. 72 AMX , 304 2bbl, 3speed, now disks...probably will sell, want an automatic /AC. |
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FASTNASH
AMC Apprentice Joined: Jan/30/2011 Location: York PA Status: Offline Points: 156 |
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On time on six had broken valve spring and didn't pop or hammer and ran ok, but never felt right and never was smooth, put on engineizer and cut out cylinders real couldn't pin point in and then did leak down and comp checks was ok but then remove valve cover and check push rods ok, check spring height with set of calipers and thats how found it broken corner off valve spring and it had aftermarket springs. One time had happen on stock 360 in wagoneer once. Garage put cam in they thought cam was worn and replaced it and wouldn't run any different and gave up and gave to me check and was on number 8 cylinder. And then two weeks later different spring gave out in different cylinder and ending up replacing them all. Funny things has happen and did over rev it is possible. Check valve train. Just my two cents. Good luck.
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AMO#3040 NAMDRA#1115 AMC's are just like potato chips you just can't have one.
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FASTNASH
AMC Apprentice Joined: Jan/30/2011 Location: York PA Status: Offline Points: 156 |
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I am new at this forum stuff and got little off left field, I over looked couple pages, I see you pull the engine out. I over look that, My Mistake? But signs of your bearings and how they where scuff looks like you need deeper oil sump? Specially if going run it hard, do you have stock 4 quart pan on it? Just my two cents. Good luck
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AMO#3040 NAMDRA#1115 AMC's are just like potato chips you just can't have one.
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tyrodtom
AMC Addicted Joined: Sep/14/2007 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 6214 |
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I had a part of the clutch or pressure plate make a small hole in the bellhousing when I missed a shift, neither blew, but I had sytoms like you until I replaced both. I didn't notice the small triangular hole ( 1/2 in.) until I took the transmission out.
There might have been more than one weight welded on the pressure plate, with a spot weld with very little penetration, it would be hard to see where the old spot weld was now.
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66 American SW, 66 American 2dr, 82 J10, 70 Hornet, Pound, Va.
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farna
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Could have been a faulty pilot bushing too (metal not properly formulated/hardened/etc.). But the out of balance pressure plate surely caused the majority of the problems.
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SIXPAK
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John, use a dial indicator and see if the bellhousing is running on the crank centerline. It may be out. Very common on the 8 inch deep blowproof, not sure about others.
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