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Wow, someone on FaceBook posted a picture of a SPRING found in the end of their Crankshaft and wondered what it was....  now I guess I have some idea what it was and how it got there !  LOL
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Tomorrow that is my problem. The flywheel that was on my 360 has the wrong size pilot bearing hole. It was vibrating the I thought the clutch went out, grinding going into reverse and hard to get into gear. The transmission guy is saying there is play in the pilot bearing. He says I need a different flywheel, the pilot hole has to be 4.5 inches. I was told when I bought it that it is a 360 AMC motor and it has the 3 speed transmission.  Does anyone know how to get a correct flywheel? It is in a 76 CJ 7.

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The pilot bushing goes into the end of the crankshaft. The flywheel bolts to the crankshaft flange.
You either misunderstood or need a new transmission guy.
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is 4.5 inches a little wide?
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4.5 is the crank to flywheel pilot, not the transmission to crank pilot.
70/71 crank is 4.5. 72 and up is 4.65.
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"Grinding going into reverse and hard to get into gear" does not sound like a pilot bushing or flywheel fitment problem and sounds like more of clutch, shifter/linkage, or transmission issue.  

Flywheel could be contributing if clutch plate is not engaging it correctly, however.

If pilot busing is really shot, I suppose it could allow enough play in system to make shifting difficult.  Probably would have made some noise for a while, though.

Is this a new problem?  Have you changed out the clutch recently?




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You can have my Hurst shifter when you pry it from my cold dead hand.
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Yes, transmission guy put in new clutch and had flywheel turned. Still doesn't want to go into gear. I am going to his shop Monday to look at the flywheel. 
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Okay that helps a lot. So a 70/71 360 flywheel will have a 4.5 inch crank to flywheel pilot? 
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Originally posted by Frwilkins Frwilkins wrote:

Yes, transmission guy put in new clutch and had flywheel turned. Still doesn't want to go into gear. I am going to his shop Monday to look at the flywheel. 

If this is the original flywheel and it worked fine before the new clutch, I would guess the issue is in the clutch/fork linkage.  

Kinda sounds like the friction disc is not fully disengaging from the flywheel. I would check the fork adjustment on the clutch linkage first to make sure the throw out bearing is moving far enough.  Also, may want to ensure the fork pivot ball is still in place.

Did your guy just change the clutch or did he put a new fork in too?

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Originally posted by Frwilkins Frwilkins wrote:

Yes, transmission guy put in new clutch and had flywheel turned. Still doesn't want to go into gear. I am going to his shop Monday to look at the flywheel. 


You may want to do a runout on the face of the flywheel.  I've run into a couple cases in my life where a shop didn't clean the crank face of the flywheel or the hub on the flywheel grinder.  The flywheel didn't fully seat on the machine and was cut crooked.
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