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PHAT69AMX
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6768rogues - You did something I did not, on my '69 AMX I put on new Gabriels, and had no basis of comparison, where you did also and then tried the KYB shocks and saw, felt, and experienced the difference 1st hand... Thanks for sharing what you found !
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amx007
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I put new springs on my amx and it too rides stiff guess it’s race ready lol
Gary
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dream red white and blue
1968 Chicago auto show amx 290 4 speed 1969 driver Amx 290 auto |
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mbwicz
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Gary, Did you go with 5 leaf (heavy duty) or 4 leaf on your AMX? Also, what wheels/tires are you using? I have a 70 AMX and I'm trying to figure out which way to go. Thanks, Mike |
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1970 AMX, one step forward, one step back. Both steps cost time and money.
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Jfunk378
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Is 5 leaf the heavy duty spring? That’s what’s on my car now.
I’m leaning towards a half inch over stock spring and a shackle kit that gives me another half inch. Anyone know what the stock ride height for front and back is? Now I have to figure out what shock to go with. Mixed reviews on the KYB Gas shocks, and my budget doesn’t allow for the $200 each hydraulic shock I’ve seen. Anyone have any other hydraulic shock options?
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6768rogues
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I should have known better than to use Gabriel. I had a GM pickup with worn out shocks. I put on Gabriel and no change, it still rode like it did with the worn out OEM shocks. I took them back, 2 days old, and got a refund (Autozone). I went across the street (Advance) and got Monroes. The truck rode like new and the shocks outlasted the truck. Gabriel-never again.
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mbwicz
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Jfunk, according to a print I have, the stock height should be about 8-3/8” to the bottom of the rocker. Nearly level front to back.
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1970 AMX, one step forward, one step back. Both steps cost time and money.
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Jfunk378
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I just measured mine. 10 1/2 to bottom of rocker at rear. 10 at bottom of rocker at front. Both measurements were taken where wheel arch ends at rocker.
Wheel an tires. Front: 205/65/15 Rear: 225/70/15 Wheels are Torque thrusts
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Jmerican
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Tall tires you all are talkin.
KYB Gr2 shocks Are not gas cell equipped. “Hydraulic” KYB Gas Adj are a low pressure gas cell equipped twin tube shock. Very good for the money. Not harsh in my opinion. Cheap but good. High value. Koni Reds or Blacks are lightly sport valved twin tube shocks. Most are not gas cell equipped. These are very high quality shocks with specific valving for each app. Not harsh and infact, very controlled high quality dampers for the money. Yes, a bit of money, but not bad. Rebuildable and revalveable AND adjustable for(on) rebound. Koni Yellow, a different animal. Bilstein (most) are high pressure gas, fully devided from the working piston (no cell bag) Mono Tube shock, of very high quality. For the money, they have extremely high standards. The mono tube gives the shock way more sensitivity (via its large piston area)over small movements which can make them feel impact harsh. When valved for the application they are outstanding pieces. Body control is really good. They are firm. There are tweaks to lessen that, but it gets into working with them. They are highly durable. And rebuildable and revalveable at the factory or a service center. Any Gabriel or Monroe or AC or what have you, is fairly low end generic replacement stuff, most are not tailored for the individual car. A few good products, but... |
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Jmerican
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Better to get the arch right during manufacture. Re arch is temporary and lame. De arch a little better.
1/2” shackle lift as posted will be at least a 1” longer piece. Bad for handling, most times. And bad for pinion angle. Best to build it in the spring.
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amx007
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I’ll check on if 4 or 5 I think 5
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dream red white and blue
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