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raser13
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Posted: Jun/12/2019 at 8:41pm |
Sorry guys I'll get a top cover pic sometime Sunday when I get back from vacation.
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tomj
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1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto
1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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tyrodtom
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I went outside and looked at the T-150 I have, from a 77 Gremlin.
That shifter is exactly what is on my T-150, right down to the very sturdy shift rods, and double bolted front shift arm. Speedometer drive in same location. Mine has a 9 bolt top cover, 3 across the back, 4 down each side, front 2 closer together. Maybe they used the same shifter on more than one transmission. But with all the thick muck on that transmission, it's hard to make out details. One picture from the top and it could be IDed instantly, by the top cover.
Edited by tyrodtom - Jun/10/2019 at 8:40pm |
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66 American SW, 66 American 2dr, 82 J10, 70 Hornet, Pound, Va.
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tomj
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it's not a T150. they're large. the tail portion is fat, with an aluminum casting on the bottom that looks like a heat sink. there is definitely a top cover; cast iron case with a stamped steel cover. 4 bolts is T96, 6 bolts T14. just orient the trans andf bell so that the shift levers and throwout lever is on the drivers side. those shift levers dont look factory i agree. they're too tall.
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1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto
1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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tyrodtom
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When you're dealing with a transmission 30-40 years old, it doesn't matter how you treat it, what matters is how it was treated in those previous decades.
When it came to 3 speeds, AMC put a T-15 behind a 360 usually.
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66 American SW, 66 American 2dr, 82 J10, 70 Hornet, Pound, Va.
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pacerman
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Read this:
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/transmissions/manual/t150 If the actual design of the automobile version is equivalent toploader, it should be OK if you treat it right. Joe
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raser13
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This does have a top cover on it. The shifter Assembly is mounted to the Side of the tail shaft. Ironically i have a four wheel T-150 down at my mother in-laws garage. I pulled it out of a Cj 5 I had.
Unfortunately(in this case anyhow) I've left for a weeks vacation at Yellowstone National Park. So I didn't get to count bolts or get better pics. I'll do that as soon as I get back. I know the T-150s and it's four speed cousin the T-176 are considered buy the jeep guys to be pretty tough and bullet proof. Is the 2 wheel version the same? I'm rebuilding a 360 to go in the and this 3 speed will be going behind it for now. I'm planning to swap it out later with a tranny that has more gears in it. I'm not planning on abusing this tranny by doing burn outs but I'm hoping that this isn't going to self destruct behind the 360 under normal driving conditions. Any thoughts?
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tyrodtom
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Like I said the Novak site only has pictures of the transmissions as they would be installed in a 4wds.
The installed both T14s and T150 in cars also. I've had one of each, they looked nothing like the pictures on the Novak site. The 2WD versions had different output shafts, and tailhousings. But a lot of other parts are interchangeable between the 2wd and 4wd versions. Both had top covers, just plain steel, no shifter on the top. They had side shift levers, which you can see the provision for as castings on the top shifted models. I've seen a T-14 2WD version, that someone, ( not the factory ) put a top shifter from a 4WD on it.
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66 American SW, 66 American 2dr, 82 J10, 70 Hornet, Pound, Va.
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Greyhounds_AMX
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The Novak site makes it look like both the T150 and T14 have a top loaded shifter. The one the OP has isn't like that though - it has external levers.
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tyrodtom
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The T-14 has a 6 bolt side cover, the T150 has a 8 bolt top cover, with the front 2 bolts closer together.
With it that dirty, it's impossible to pick out any details in a picture. What little I can see of the shifter, it looks like the shifter on the T150 I took out of a 77 Gremlin. Novak has a good site to ID transmissions from, but every transmission they show will be as they were installed in a 4WD, and will look different from the 2WD car installed versions.
Edited by tyrodtom - Jun/07/2019 at 7:03pm |
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