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    Posted: Oct/10/2017 at 1:32pm
What type of paint was AMC using in '65? Mainly curious. Where the paint hasn't come off, it looks solid. funny that the entire roof has little to no remaining paint on top, just the A pillars and C pillars. 
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AMC's used an acrylic enamel.  It should be stated on your door tag.
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Looking at some color chip charts on the web, it seems that my Classic is/was Viscount Blue. Quite attractive color IMHO. Wish more of the car had good paint on it! Will definitely try to duplicate it after all this mechanical work is out of the way.
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Baked acrylic enamel. It is rock hard and very durable. I've found it is harder and more durable than modern paint. 

I have several cars with original acrylic enamel on them. If you accidentally brush past them with a piece of metal on your clothing, like a zipper or jeans rivets, it won't scratch the paint. It scratches the metal piece of your clothing off onto the paint, which can then be polished off with very little effort. The paint is literally harder than some brass or steel alloys. 
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That's a little bit of a exaggeration there FSJunkie.

I was working on these cars straight off the transporter in 1973,  and was fresh out of the Army, still wore my old brass buckled fatigue belt.

I learned right quick you didn't lean out over a car and let your belt buckle come in contact with the paint, or the buttons on your shirt either.  Even though the paint was oven baked at 275+ degrees,  the paint didn't fully cure all the way through till several weeks later.

I agree the old oven baked acrylic enamel was tougher than anything they've come up with yet, except the full urethane paints like Imron.
  But they weren't perfect, cars still paint chipped from gravel, and other road debris,  and factories still had their occasional paint failures.




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Mine was a nice metallic Viscount Blue too. Where it hasn't faded is nice. The rest, no so much. I feel your struggle Raccoonman. I would love to return mine to it's original color too.
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I'm a long time body and paint man. If I remember correctly, Acrylic Enamel didn't come out until 1966. Ford was the first to use it. Before then it was Nitrocellulose Lacquer or Synthetic Enamel.

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Yep.  I thought it was alkyd enamel (cured by losing the solvents only) before the acrylic enamel (indicated by an "A" in the paint code was used.  Acrylic enamel cures by chemical crosslinking and I don't the the chemistry had been used in production until about the time AMC began using it.  Joe
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Weird. Mine is a 1965 and has an A paint code. P6A. Viscount Blue Metallic.
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The door plate on my 66 says it's acrylic enamel,  not just a a A in the code,  but it states on the plate the car is finished in oven baked acrylic enamel.
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