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71AMX4014SPD
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Those of you who have Edelbrock heads, what comp ratio do you have? And what is the highest C/R that DOESN'T require octane boosters or AV gas?
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Ant
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Aluminum heads allow for a point higher in compression roughly but it depends on your camshaft as well.
http://www.enginebasics.com/Advanced%20Engine%20Tuning/Static%20vs%20Dynamic.html |
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bob401
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I have 10:1 TRW forged pistons, Edelbrock heads.. Initial timing I believe is at 16 BTDC, total maybe 36 with a Edelbrock RPM Cam.. i use 93 Octane in Texas but it seams my car loves Octane boost. It seams to even idle a bit different.. Its like each detonation is more pronounced or defined.. After changing my plugs a few weeks ago, there wasn't any detonation signs.
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KLW
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I have a set of eddys on my Spirit. The pistons are autotec with 26cc dishes in them that gives me about 10.5 to 1 on the 420 stroker. I run 91 non-oxy premium with no problems. I wouldn't go much higher than that on the comp ratio.
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RamblinMan
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10.5:1 with 18 degrees initial and 36 total. I run 93 octane pump gas and no booster.
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uncljohn
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The answer to your question in part depends on the highest octane available locally AND the compression ratio of your engine.
Here where I live 91 octane is all that is available at the average service station, typically in the S.W. So of your compression ratio is pretty much anything over 9:1 an octane boost or AV gas is going to be required. If you have 93 octane gasoline easily available then your 10.5:1 is going to be pretty much safe. Depending of course on how you tune things. But don't drive too far from a 93 octane pump. Just keep in mind, detonation causes pistons to break and feeding your ride the proper fuel to run it is a whole bunch cheaper than fishing broken piston parts out of the places that can get into. |
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I've lived all over the SE United States and never had any problem finding 93 octane. Must be a southwest oddity.
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farna
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John, remember that with AL heads you can run a bit higher compression than iron, as they dissipate heat better. So your 9:1 becomes 10:1 on premium pump gas. Personally, I'd stay in the 9.0-9.5:1 range and not go as high as 10:1. Formulation for gas changes, and you may not be able to get 91-93 premium in years to come. I like a little lee-way too, don't like running right on the edge. You can always reduce timing if you are traveling and can't get premium temporarily, or use octane booster in that situation. Most likely if you're running real high compression you're not going to be taking many long trips though...
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74Bubblefender
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Its more to do with the chamber shape than the aluminum. And your dynamic compression ratio in the end cant really be a simple answer for every engine build. If you follow the basic camshaft guidelines and shoot for an average cam grind available for your compression ratio your static compression might be 10.5-1 but your dynamic compression will be far less. Just something to be aware of before you go throwing a smaller cam and a 10.5-1 ration edelbrock headed motor together. Or thinking you can run virtually any camshaft.
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We are just about to forge new AMC V8 crankshafts.. please check here
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I'm right about 10.25 to 1. Custom Diamonds pistons. Comp Cams standard hyd cam. Full roller rockers. If you are really interested the specifics I can dig up the parts list and engine build details.
Haven't had any issues here in the WDC Metro area. Not that I get to drive it much
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