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    Posted: May/25/2012 at 1:16pm
I'm playing around with the paint to see excatly what  I'm going to use on my '70 AMX.
 
It's an original Bittersweet Orange car. I like the original color but I'm not wild about it so I had them put extra red/gold in it to orange it up a bit. I like it better, but I'm thinking about the Jeep Mango Tango I see on newer jeeps. it looks a  like bittersweet orange on steroids.
 
My car is an original 390 4spd go pac with 60,000 miles on it getting a full restoration, I kind of hate to screw around with it too much but I'd like to give it a little more zing if you know what I mean.
 
Just looking for some opinions.
 
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Saw a BSO 70 AMX years ago with Gold Murano in the clear coat. It was beautiful.....
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It is your car so do with as YOU want. I would say try and find a modern color to do the car in because if down the road if you need to do a repair getting a custom color mixed will be a PITA!
 
My 70 Javelin was Commodore blue met. I wanted something with a little more met. and found a mid 70's GM color that did just that but still is that dark blue color.
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We just finished painting a 70 AMX in PPG's best brand of base clear and the color has way more pop than the original ever did. You can take a look at the color difference of before and after here: 70 BSO AMX before and after

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You're correct the new paint is a far cry from the old enamel.
 
I have the formula so I can duplicate the mix. a little more red/gold makes it much more orange and pop in the sunlight. it's so close to the 2011 jeep mango tango it's not funny. I bet not 1% of the people at an average car show would ever question the originality of an AMC color because they don't know.
 
I'm not restoring the car for resale but I always keep it in mind.  I often wonder on a car like this if the looks of a better color would hurt the value or help it.
 
I like what I like but I'm an originality snob on all my cars. it's tough to make a decision sometimes.
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Originally posted by 440sixpack 440sixpack wrote:

You're correct the new paint is a far cry from the old enamel.
 
Exactly
Using a Base/clear coat system is a variance on the paint color. No matter what you do ( other than extreme experimentation of the mixing formula), the color will not 100% match the variance ( hue & sheen) of the original single stage paint.
With that said, it's only academic, that you can say it's the original color (based on the paint code name) but the color is truly not original.
 
Soooooooo, select the color that your want, that suits you.
One of the members of the Potomac Ramblers did the same thing. He had an original Goldenlime AMX and when the car was restored, the color was slightly changed to a modern Jeep color ( looks goooood). Although the car is clearly green, not goldenlime, most folks still refer to Harley's car as Goldenlime.  The point being, you can change up with some variance in color and most folks will still equate the color as being the "original paint color designation".
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You're thinking like I'm trying to convince myselt to.
 
Here is the color I'm thinking about, in some light you'd swear it's bittersweet orange and in other light it's a knock out.
 
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A buddy of mine has that exact car, R/T. It is a sharp looking color. You are right, the color is transparent and can appear to change a few shades of hue depending on how the light it's the car.
Ultimately, what do you want as a finished product. Bolt on items and paint can always be changed back to stock, if needed in the future.
Do you want a concours show car, than only a single stage original refinish will work. Even changing a car to bc/cc, is changing the paint, as discussed earlier. The clear alone changes the entire presentation of the paint, it appearance and color from a single stage, sooooooo, it's your car, what do you really like? 
I llike the color you have selected!
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great choice looks easy to keep clean too!!
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Originally posted by 440sixpack 440sixpack wrote:

 
I'm not restoring the car for resale but I always keep it in mind.  I often wonder on a car like this if the looks of a better color would hurt the value or help it.
 
I like what I like but I'm an originality snob on all my cars. it's tough to make a decision sometimes.
If the change is subtle, it probably won't affect the resale value appreciably, and unless you're painting it with acrylic enamel, the paint won't be factory correct anyways. Change the colour slightly as well and it will still be incorrect. You can only be correct or incorrect. So paint it the colour you like.

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