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71SC360
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Topic: Charity AMXPosted: Mar/23/2008 at 12:49pm |
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Anyone know what ever happend to the Charity AMX? Does it even exist anymore? Did it get parted out? I never hear anything about it anymore so I thought I'd ask...
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Posted: Mar/23/2008 at 12:56pm |
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I went to the official charity AMXweb site and see that the last update was Oct of last year. I find it amazing that it's taken 8 years to get it where it is today. Now that I've started on my car, I sure hope it doesn't take me 8 years to complete my SC/360 resto...
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Posted: Mar/23/2008 at 6:19pm |
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And I know Tom Benvie is NOT VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
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Posted: Mar/24/2008 at 12:41am |
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The time it's taken is not the only thing he's not happy with about with the car. The way I understand it is, someone decided to split the proceeds with three different children's charities. Originally it was all supposed to go to one charity (Boston Children's Hospital). Who ever decided to make the change also decided to donate the least amount to the original charity that Tom had chosen to give all the money to. Tom made a huge mistake in letting that car go out of the Boston area. He trusted the AMC community, as a whole, to complete the car in a timely manner and he did it without fear of things disappearing and the loss of interest in the project. The sad part is if it stayed in the Boston area it would have been completed on time for the 2002 AMC Homecoming show, the show it was originally supposed to be unveiled at. He even tried to reclaim the car about a year ago but the person that has mismanaged the project refused to let it go back to Tom for completion. So, now it sits again....
I have to say that I am pretty angry about the mismanagement of the project myself. I donated a bunch of parts for the car and I understand a lot of them have turned up missing. People can hate me for how I feel about the way this project was handled but the facts are the facts, the charity AMX project has been completely mismanaged. Sorry for letting my feelings about the project open up old wounds but excuses don't cut it anymore. |
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Posted: Mar/24/2008 at 2:22am |
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Yea Frank!
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billd
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Posted: Mar/24/2008 at 6:48am |
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What's wrong with the folks who know the background, can document some of what's happened and so on, literally write it all up, and "take it back" and get it finished right?
Where's it at that someone can't just say "ok, here's the history, here's an afodavit (spelling, I'm no lawyer) from the person who started and donated this, we're taking it back" and just end it all here and now?
I guess I'd wonder - why let this continue?
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Posted: Mar/24/2008 at 1:08pm |
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Posted: Mar/24/2008 at 1:47pm |
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Yes, I will comment on this project. About 8 years ago there was a spirited discussion on the AMXFiles website about how neat it would be for the AMC hobby to band together and restore a car for a charity. There was talk about an American as that was the least expensive car. I just bought a rough 70 AMX, but the floors and gussets were perfect. I also had a complete nose, doors, decklid, interior, etc. for the car. I primered the roof and quarters and replaced the rest with rust free sheetmetal. I also had a 360 engine from a Wagoneer, and the rest of the original 70 driveline. The car ran fine, and under the hood was painted before the engine was installed. New carpets, rebuilt doorpanels, decent dash, okay seats, etc finished the interior. As it sat-a complete running 70 AMX with one rusty and one damaged quarter, a hole in the trunk floor the car was worth about $4000 in Mass at the time-though I had far less into it. At the time my daughter had just gone through a nightmare of medical problems, and was diagnosed with some fairly rare immune issues, and some medical procedures that needed 16 surgeries. I felt this would be a great opportunity to pay back Children’s Hospital in Boston for saving my daughter. I donated the car with express conditions that all the money go to Children’s Hospital in Boston. Everyone on the website was on board. A local clubmember took the car to his house, restored the braking system, and towed the car to the Daytona AMC meet. Some people from various clubs agreed to administer the project, but soon Frank Swygert appointed himself in charge, I think mainly to promote his new AIM magazine. It has been all downhill from there. A website was set up, then it was “decided” the profits would be split by 3 hospitals, 35% to two of them, 30% to Boston. WHAT???
While in Florida, a lot of work was done. However, they were not used to seeing cars with rusted quarters and felt it could be parted out for $6000. No deal-we want to show the world we can stick together and restore this car! It was decided the car should be stock, so Frank authorized a great deal- a stock 70 intake manifold in exchange for a torker intake, Holley carb, chrome aircleaner and valve covers, Accell ignition….all for a stock intake. Now the car didn’t run, so stock parts were needed. In the meantime, I donated a complete quarter panel, complete wheels with NOS trim rings, lugs and correct center caps. Taillight lenses. A second grill to help fix the one that got busted. NOS grill lamp assys. A door window. Etc, etc, etc. I sent a ton of parts for the car, most ending up missing-to include a seat changed for a Gremlin seat of the opposite side! People donated other mechanical parts, Joe Roberts a number of items he had that were needed. There was an offer for a complete, new reproduction side exhaust, and it was turned down to install a stock exhaust, even with “missing” rocker moldings! There has been little publicity, little solicitations for parts, little of anything-except for the few people who had the car and did a ton of work on it-these people should be praised for what they did. Just under two years ago my garage was empty and I asked to get the car back as a number of former New England AMC Clubmembers volunteered to finish the car and enter it in the Boston World of Wheels Jan, 2007. Believe it or not, I was told by Frank-“NO, we will let someone else work on the car”. Then it went in a shop and that is the last I heard. Frank has a number of excuses about this project, but to me it is a bitter disappointment. What could have been, but for the ego of one person. Couldn’t be any more honest than that. |
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Posted: Mar/24/2008 at 2:04pm |
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So what's wrong with just "taking it back" and getting on with it?
Where is it, and are there forum members close who would volunteer to go get it? Why not just be done with it? Why should he "tell" anyone? How can he refuse? Why isn't anyone moving to go get it? What's the reason? Does he have a legal hold on it? If it was a day-trip from here, I'd go get it myself. Edited by billd - Mar/24/2008 at 2:05pm |
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Posted: Mar/24/2008 at 2:15pm |
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Who holds the title?
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