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can a t-14 trans replace a t-96

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Originally posted by tomj tomj wrote:

oh wait! NOT A JEEP/TRUCK T14! There is an AMC delivered, AMC outfit, T14 trans with traditional side shifter.

It's so weird that you even have this. The tail housing looks different than what I found, of course but so does that bell. I'm guessing it's because this was a version with the starter on the driver side? Did they change the bells for this transmission JUST because of the starter?
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I have a T14 that has the side shifter. It came out of a 1972 Gremlin with the V8.
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I am not sure what transmission came out of my 66 American 232 car, but I think I can find it. You can have it if you want to pick it up. 
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The truck T-14 has a different gear ratios than the T-14 made for the car.

The car T-14 has 2.64 1st gear and 1.61 2nd,  that's not much different from a 69 T-96, 2.61 1st and 1.63 2nd.

I had a t-14 in my 69 American with a 232,  it didn't seem to me to have any wide gap between the gears.
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Originally posted by DaemonForce DaemonForce wrote:

Originally posted by tomj tomj wrote:

oh wait! NOT A JEEP/TRUCK T14! There is an AMC delivered, AMC outfit, T14 trans with traditional side shifter.

It's so weird that you even have this. The tail housing looks different than what I found, of course but so does that bell. I'm guessing it's because this was a version with the starter on the driver side? Did they change the bells for this transmission JUST because of the starter?

that's a 68? i think AMC passenger car T14, i think i got from pacerman (Joe). the bellhousing is from a 1963 Rambler American. so the starter is on the drivers side. 

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Originally posted by tyrodtom tyrodtom wrote:

The truck T-14 has a different gear ratios than the T-14 made for the car.

The car T-14 has 2.64 1st gear and 1.61 2nd,  that's not much different from a 69 T-96, 2.61 1st and 1.63 2nd.

I had a t-14 in my 69 American with a 232,  it didn't seem to me to have any wide gap between the gears.

i admit i did google the ratios, but it was in fact a bear to drive. the car had a T96 with OD and a 3.77 (i think?) "big nut" axle. i swapped in the T14 and a Mustang 2.73 axle. top gear was a good match. but the engine didn't have the torque to pull 2nd for higher RPM than was reasonable.

the T96+OD and that axle was a great setup for that engine and car. the T5 is of course much better.

but now you;'ve got me curious, i will go out and put it in 2nd and turn shafts and figure out what gears are in there.

i'm wrong all the time.

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I think the truck T-14 has a over 3.00 1st,  or like 3.10,  but the same 1.61 2nd gear.  That would be a pretty big gap between 1st and 2nd.

If you had a T-96 with the twin-stick OD, it had different 2nd gear ratios than the normal T-96.

My T-14 had a overdrive,  a special order car,  I've never seen, or heard of another like it.  I'm just assuming it's gear ratois was the same as the other car T-14s.  
A website devoted to Borg Warner OD's states BW never put their OD on a full sychro 3 speed,  but I had a sycho 1st gear,  and it was a T-14, because I had it out of the car once in that 18 years to replace the clutch.   I did it myself,  I saw the T-14 markings on the transmission,  I just don't remember the particular model # of the T-14.
 I drove it for 18 years,  if it did have a wide gap between 1st and 2nd, I either never noticed, or got used to it.
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On my T14, I felt 1st gear was too high, and 2nd was too low. This was in my 1972 Gremlin. My 1974 Gremlin also has A T14. But the 74 has 2.73 gears whereas the 72 has 3.54s... I guess the 2.73s make a somewhat difference...
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