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tomj
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Posted: Jul/23/2014 at 5:08pm |
wow, freaky... josh drove over a minor pothole (i drove by it, it's 3" deep), huge >KLUNK<, front passenger side wheel went wogga-wogga... long story short, the strut rod broke clean across, right in front of the front-most bushing retainer nut. no sign of obvious prior damage; no gouge, abrasion, scraping from jacks or tools, etc, in the area around the break. also the break itself is clean all the way across -- i had an axle break once, looked like a fingernail -- one small crescent of shiny metal, the rest dull grey, eg. an old fracture that worked across and let go all at once. this shows no evidence of *anything*, it just seems to have... parted.
front end work was recently done -- new bushings installed -- which immediately makes me suspicious, but the shop is top-notch, knows AMCs, did things right, etc. all we can figure is that it was stressed long ago, from an accident, car jacked up on it, etc then broke when whacked, either "just right" or timing. (could have been a lot worse, eg. on the freeway). anyone see this before? anyone know where we can find one? 72 Hornet 6cyl? they never need replacing so no one's got them laying about. it's a daily driver and out of commission til we find a part, if you've got one i'll pay for expedited shipping. |
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gtoman_us
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that is quite odd?
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uncljohn
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The strut rod is exactly the same one used from 1971 through to end of production on the 2 whd cars except for Pacer and are interchangeable side to side.
I have one, do you want it? CORRECTION. They are not interchangeable side to side. Forgot that sitting two floors above the garage. Edited by uncljohn - Jul/24/2014 at 11:22am |
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Fluffy73
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I've seen them break before. Usually, you've got to be pretty hard on them, doing something really stupid or using polyurethane bushings, but like anything man-made, it's designed to fail.
Like you say, it could've been a lot worse. Play the lotto tonight! Glad to hear you're OK though. |
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carnuck
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The Eagle ones may even be the same. They lowered the brackets on the frame a couple inches for the lift.
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SportaboutX
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San Diego has similar terrible potholes. Look into it, the city may cover the cost! In San Diego there is a form you can fill out, and attach the bill for repairs, pics of the pothole and damage to the car, and 4-6 weeks later you have a check. Not all places are this nice, but can't hurt to check.
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THE MENACE
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Those strut rods are over 40 years old, and with all of the twisting, bending, and flexing they do it's not really surprizing they brake when they get old. If you are worried about that happening again or just want to upgrade you should look into the strut rods that Joe got for his former SCCA AMX. They pretty much eliminate the flexing (bending) problem by eliminating the rear bushings (that fights the rest of the suspension) and replace it with a pivot point. This will greatly reduce the stress on both the strut rod and the frame bracket.
I don't think Joe will mind me posting this picture of his new strut rod.
I'm using a simular design on my AMX, but they might not work as well without upgrading your lower control arm to something like Control Freaks tubular arms.
Dennis Edited by THE MENACE - Jul/25/2014 at 4:07pm |
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Maybe the nut was overtorqued since it broke in that spot?
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uncljohn
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It's 45 years old and been a lot of miles and goes through monkey motion when the suspension moves, takes all the shock of hitting pot holes and stopping the car from any kind of speed and pretends it is a pivot point.
I'n surprised more of them have not broken. But they haven't they are roughly 3/4 in thick where the thread starts. There is no finesse to the part it is crude and brutal. But for the most part, it gets the job done. |
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Did you use poly strut rod bushings? With Fords using poly strut rod bushings is a huge no-no. It is known to cause the strut rod to snap at the bushing.
I haven't heard of this problem with an AMC before, but is a very common problem on a Ford if poly bushings are used. |
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